Open carry, campus carry (laws) advanced in Texas Senate

[Lodestar]

Source: KVUE T.V.

Open carry, campus carry advance in Texas Senate


Senate meeting on two high-profile gun bills

AUSTIN -- Two hotly-debated gun bills are one step closer to possibly becoming law in Texas.

Campus carry and licensed open carry bills were approved by the Senate State Affairs Committee Thursday evening. More than a hundred people signed up to testify either for or against the legislation.

"I recognize that these are important issues for everyone here. We will strive for an orderly and respectful hearing," committee chair Joan Huffman (R-Houston) said after gaveling the hearing into session Thursday morning.

Campus carry Senate Bill 11 author state Sen. Brian Birdwell (R-Granbury) began by announcing plans to modify his bill to avoid potential conflicts in the event campus carry and open carry legislation are both signed into law. Birdwell said in such a case, open carry would still be prohibited on public college campuses.

Read more: http://www.kvue.com/story/news/politics/2015/02/12/open-carry-campus-carry-advance-in-texas-senate/23326645/

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I don't know why they call it the Senate. Ought to just call it the NRA.
Maybe they need a refresher course on the history of guns on campus....the 1966 Univ. of Texas bell tower shooter, Charles Whitman

http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/mass/whitman/index_1.html

Of course there are more than enough current stories which have also been unheeded.

[Hoyt]

1. I would hope schools would discriminate against ignorant yahoos with a gun on their hip. N/t

[ManiacJoe]

10. Not such a good way to describe the professors.

[Hoyt]

13. They'll need gunz too. That's what the gunners want. Of course, most don't care for

higher education, believing it's too liberal, all that science and social justice stuff.

[Midnight Writer]

2. What could possibly go wrong here?

Does anyone remember the Clock Tower sniper in Austin? It sure would have been a convenience to him if he could have openly carried his sniper rifle up those stairs.

[pocoloco]

17. Does anyone remember all the rifles removed from their

pickup racks and used to keep Whitman pinned down??

[GGJohn]

32. Do you remember that it was civilians using their own firearms

that kept Whitman pinned down so LE could get to him, and one of those that confronted him in the tower was a civilian.

[shenmue]

3. Why don't they call the bill, "Let's just shoot each other"?

[GGJohn]

15. And yet Co. state colleges, WA. state colleges

allow concealed carry on campus and this doesn't happen.
Hmmm, I wonder why?

[Sparhawk60]

22. It's Simple....

Because, in addition to being legal to carry guns on those campuses, you can also smoke pot. So, yea, you're open carrying, but you are really, really mellow about it.

[GGJohn]

24. Except that those campuses only allow concealed carry, not open carry. eom.

[GGJohn]

33. So how come that doesn't happen at other colleges where concealed carry

is allowed?

[Lodestar]

4. If the law allows this then it should also allow folks to carry guns into the Senate chamber. n/t

[xocet]

21. Though that could make floor debates a lot more lively, maintaining a quorum could be a problem.n/t

[msongs]

5. gun owners are a threat to the citizenry and should be treated as such nt

[candelista]

20. What exactly should be done with them?

"Treated as such" means what? Put in jail?

I'm glad you're not in charge of anything.

[Duckhunter935]

26. threatening citizens by keyboard

How nice, bet you will not get an answer

[Lodestar]

6. I wonder if the NRA allows open gun carry inside their headquarters?

I think a very large group of concerned Texas citizens ought to converge on their offices and test that theory.

[blkmusclmachine]

7. NRA doesn't allow open carry on their convention floor. Someone might get killed.

Hypocrites

[ManiacJoe]

11. That would be the restriction of the insurance company for the building.

[TheCowsCameHome]

14. Insurance companies aren't fools.

They know what can go wrong. Too bad others don't.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

29. Speaking of insurance companies

Shouldn't insurance companies have their actuaries working on whether they should raise TX university-related insurance policies by 7000% or by 9000% to cover the increased risk? I would hope so.

[ManiacJoe]

36. What increased risk?

Armed university staff is not a problem elsewhere, why would it be a problem in Texas?

[Judi Lynn]

30. Interesting! Never knew this. n/t

[Hoyt]

9. No. They know just how dangerous gunners are.

They do have a shooting range at their headquarters so yahoos can get their kicks.

[quadrature]

8. repeal Jim Crow... pass these modern laws ...nt

[Cryptoad]

12. GOP: A gun for every Idiot, an Idiot for every gun!

[christx30]

16. Yay. So during an active shooter situation,

the police won't have to settle with looking for just one guy running around with a gun. They'll find a bunch of them! It'll be a smorgasbord of weapons! I can picture them running up to someone saying "are you the bad guy with a gun?" "No, I'm a good guy with a gun." "Have a nice day then, sir. Try the sandwiches at Potbelly over on The Drag. They're awesome."
Because when there is a bad guy running around shooting at people, the best thing in the world is a bunch of untrained, armed people running around trying to help. I can't picture any way it could make things worse.

[GGJohn]

34. Yeah, because that happens all the time.

[Paladin]

18. Somewhere in the depths of hell, Charles Whitman is laughing his ass off. (nt)

[jwirr]

19. I remember the Texas Tower incidence. I just wonder if the rest of the world (including Texas) are

as aware of the current stories as we are here on DU?

[GGJohn]

35. I wonder if you remember that it was civilians with their own firearms

helping police keep Whitman pinned down so that police could get to him? I wonder if you remember that one of those that confronted Whitman was a civilian?

[jwirr]

38. So?

[GGJohn]

39. And? eom

[jwirr]

40. We have not heard much about gun owners helping out lately. If you think I am anti gun you need

to have a look in that safe in the house I live in.

But I also have mentally ill family members and what I am anti is that it is so easy to get a gun regardless of who you are. I have attended auctions that had large displays of guns for sale and not one buyer was given a background test.

We also have many families who do not have the sense God gave little geese. We have a real safe for the guns and the ammo and no one in the family even has access to it except two adults. Not even me. We used to have common sense laws - we do not anymore.

[Paladin]

41. That's a pro-gun militant myth.

As I've mentioned before, I was in Austin that day, and I had school friends who lost family in Whitman's slaughter. The sole effect of civilian shooting that day was for Whitman to move his open-and-obvious shooting to a protected position through the rain spouts, where he continued the killing. Police pleaded for civilians to quit shooting, because it just made a bad situation worse. This periodic effort to convert that awful day at UT into a Second Amendment triumph amounts to pissing on the victims' graves.

[lark]

23. Headlines within a year of passing the law:

Record number of TX college students suffer gunshot wounds

Idiots!!

[GGJohn]

25. If that were true, then how come the other campuses

in other states that allow this don't suffer GSW's?

You know, states like Alaska, Utah, Colorado?

[Duckhunter935]

27. Wel we all know that this year

Georgia is no more as all of it's residents were killed in gunfights.

[Politicalboi]

28. Give them time

I feel for the poor teachers who have to put up with this shit so assholes can carry their precious everywhere they go. The teachers need to strike.

[GGJohn]

31. They've had plenty of time, yet, so far, no "blood in the classrooms.

CO. state universities have had concealed carry for several years, yet, nothing, Utah, same thing, Alaska, nothing.

[ManiacJoe]

37. How many students

do you think would be eligible to concealed carry? (Hint: minimum age is 21.)