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jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 08:42 PM Feb 2015

Obama phones Putin as Ukraine on brink

Source: CNN

Washington (CNN)President Barack Obama urged his Russian counterpart on Tuesday to accept the diplomatic peace plan for Ukraine that European leaders will present Wednesday in Belarus.

The White House said Obama underscored to Russian President Vladimir Putin in a phone call "the importance of ... seizing the opportunity presented by the ongoing discussions between Russia, France, Germany and Ukraine to reach a peaceful resolution" to the violence in Eastern Ukraine.


A day earlier, Obama said he hadn't yet decided whether or not to send arms and equipment to forces loyal to Kiev, saying he was still seeking a diplomatic end to the crisis. Standing alongside German Chancellor Angela Merkel at a press conference, Obama said the chances for a military solution in Ukraine were "low."

"If Russia continues its aggressive actions in Ukraine, including by sending troops, weapons and financing to support the separatists, the costs for Russia will rise," Obama told Putin, according to the White House.

Read more: http://edition.cnn.com/2015/02/10/politics/obama-putin-ukraine/index.html




Obama warns Putin over deepening Ukraine crisis

Kathrin Hille in Moscow and Megan Murphy in Washington

...

The report of Mr Obama’s call with Mr Putin came after a key security adviser to he Russian leader accused the US of seeking to drag Russia directly into war in Ukraine through the possible plan to arm Kiev, underlining the seriousness with which Moscow would greet such a move.

“The Americans are trying to draw the Russian Federation into an interstate military conflict, to achieve regime change through the events in Ukraine and to ultimately dismember our country,” said Nikolai Patrushev, head of the Kremlin’s security council.

The start of such arms supplies would be “one more confirmation that the US is a direct participant in the conflict,” Mr Patrushev added, warning that if Washington took this step, the conflict would “escalate only further”.

Mr Patrushev is one of Mr Putin’s closest associates — a former head of the FSB intelligence agency that succeeded the KGB, and one of the security officials with whose help the president runs the country.



http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/664a8c16-b14c-11e4-a830-00144feab7de.html
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Obama phones Putin as Ukraine on brink (Original Post) jakeXT Feb 2015 OP
If ever there was a time to pray for peace, this is it nikto Feb 2015 #1
+1000 kairos12 Feb 2015 #2
Yes . . . another_liberal Feb 2015 #3
They left out the complete sentence Jesus Malverde Feb 2015 #4
What's in the East that the West wants? yurbud Feb 2015 #5
The industrial output of Ukraine is in the east....nt Jesus Malverde Feb 2015 #6
Sounds like the neoconservative got overconfident and expected flowers and candy again yurbud Feb 2015 #7
What the fuck is he talking about? DeSwiss Feb 2015 #8
 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
1. If ever there was a time to pray for peace, this is it
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 09:05 PM
Feb 2015

If the US starts pumping arms into Ukraine, US arms manufacturers will be overjoyed, but much of Ukraine
could end up a burned-out shell of its former self (think Beirut, Afghanistan, Vietnam, etc). In time, the deaths
could easily be well into the 6-figures.

It's hard to see how anybody but the MIC's of both the US and Russia benefits from a Ukraine war.


We know what the Oligarchs/bank$/CEOs on both sides want (Ukraine's resources, of all kinds ).


But nobody seems to be asking: What's in it for Ukraine?



I repeat:
Pray for peace.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
4. They left out the complete sentence
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 10:22 PM
Feb 2015

On the brink of collapse.

Their currency is now worthless, their military on the verge of being destroyed in Debaltseve, and they cannot find new fighters. Losing the east will mean no collateral for the IMF loans. The collapse is the neocon adventure. I'm guessing we will see an escalation as the west gets desperate.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
8. What the fuck is he talking about?
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 01:18 AM
Feb 2015
- What do you think Hollande, Merkel, Poroshenko and Putin have been doing in their meetings this whole past week. In Russia. They need no encouragement or input from you. Since no drones are needed.

Jealousy is ugly.
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