GOP Lawmaker Emphasizes Rape's Silver Lining

[Rocknrule]

Source: Think Progress

Another Republican lawmaker has waded into the debate over abortion access for rape victims, saying that abortion bans shouldn’t have exceptions for women who became pregnant from sexual assault because “what is beautiful is the child that could come from this.”
West Virginia Del. Brian Kurcaba (R) made the comments — which were first reported by Charleston Gazette staffer David Gutman — during a public hearing on Thursday. A health committee in the legislature was debating a proposed 20-week abortion ban. Kurcaba was explaining why he opposed a Democratic-sponsored amendment to add an exception for rape victims.
“Obviously rape is awful,” Kurcaba said. “What is beautiful is the child that could come from this.”
Kurbaca’s statement echoes other controversial comments from GOP politicians along the same lines. In 2012, Indiana GOP Senate candidate Richard Mourdock said that abortion bills should not include rape exceptions because pregnancies resulting from rape are a “gift from God.” Mourdock lost his election, as did several other Republicans who waded into the issue of sexual assault and abortion access during their campaigns that year.

Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/health/2015/02/06/3620162/west-virginia-abortion-rape/

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Another misogynistic Republican whose stance on rape is basically "when life gives you lemons, make lemonade".

[marym625]

1. Holy shit!

I fucking hate these people! Hate!

Thanks for the post.

[Mira]

2. Vomit

To these callous idiots life begins at conception and ends at birth. How large is his door step so the beautiful babies can get left there for him to raise....?

[Fred Sanders]

3. Christian religion distorting terrorists are degrees of hate less than ISIS, but they are here. Now.

In many places of power. And supported by a look at the squirrel mass media.

[Major Nikon]

4. Kinda makes one wonder about what kind of god they are endorsing

[Rocknrule]

6. The Holy Phallus

And its prophets, the Fetus and the 2nd Amendment

[Major Nikon]

7. ...

[spinbaby]

17. Matsuri!

[shenmue]

5. Evil

[Populist_Prole]

8. They're getting desperate, as their base is dying off

They have to go more and more over-the-top to rake in the nuttiest of wingnutters in a desperate attempt to shore up their base; maintain critical mass.

[Liberalynn]

9. The scary thing is people vote for these scum bags.

[thesquanderer]

10. I am pro-choice, but can actually respect this position.

Not that I think there should be such a law.

But if you personally believe that an abortion is the taking of a human life (which, technically, it is... any scientist will tell you that it is alive, and any scientist will tell you that it is genetically a 100% complete human), what does it matter how it got there? If you are going to consider a fetus a protectable human life (which again, I do not), at least someone who does not make an exception for rape is being consistent in his or her beliefs. It is the pro-lifer who makes an exception for rape that I think is the morally least defensible position, probably born out of political pragmatism. Certainly nobody would say that it would be okay to kill a newborn if s/he was the result of rape, and a "rape exemption" to someone who really believes that "life begins at conception" would be the same thing.

And to the extent that "rape exemptions" serve to make pro-life laws more palatable to people, I think they may actually be counter-productive to the pro-choice cause.

[blackspade]

34. Um, no.

Just, no.

[Judi Lynn]

38. You're "pro-choice." Pro-womens'-choice, or pro-right-wing women-haters' choice? I think I know. n/t

[Blue_Adept]

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[Thespian2]

11. On this thread

someone said they respect Brian Kurcaba's position. I will respect this position when and if all the law-makers who support such a position raise a child produced by rape. These mental midget legislators are unable to understand that half the DNA of that child will be from a sick monster who did an abomination upon a woman. Raise one of the children, then speak from knowledge and experience.

[Marrah_G]

45. I am one of the children........

[Thespian2]

47. Thank you

I did not mean to paint everyone with the same brush. I know better. I am sorry!

[StevieM]

48. You seem to be assuming that mothers don't want to raise their children in these cases.

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When a woman gets pregnant by rape she has an abortion 50% of the time. 12% end in miscarriage. 6% of these pregnancies lead to an adoption. 32% of the time the mother goes through with pregnancy and keeps the baby. In other words, 85% of children conceived in rape and not aborted are kept by their mothers--not given up for adoption.

I think it should always be the woman's choice as to whether or not she has an abortion. But if the mother doesn't want an abortion, then it shouldn't be assumed that the child will be adopted.

Birth mothers usually don't just give up their children and happily move on with their lives. Most of them will love and miss that child with all their heart. And that includes children who were conceived in rape.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/mother-raped-aged-15-reunited-5137390#rlabs=1

[no_hypocrisy]

12. Some silver lining . . . .

Let's say you're a woman who's been raped.

You have suffered a trauma twofold: your attack and your subsequent pregnancy.

You make peace with the pregnancy and have the baby. You face a lifetime of your rapist as the biological AND LEGAL father of your child who may or may not go away.

Your rapist could sue for visitation, change of custody, perhaps child support if COC. In any case, your child will be involuntarily exposed to your rapist. Your child will never be completely yours, short of a court order in Family Court.

[kydo]

13. But what if his daughter was raped by a black guy?

Would he still force her to have this gift from God?

I think he would fly her to China for an abortion.

BTW China is the come back line I use when taking to wing nuts about global warming. After the topic comes up and after the yelling the nut does, said wing nut generally admits yeah there is climate change but it isn't our fault its just nature and besides won't do us any good cause China is the biggest offender and they won't change. So I remind them the person they despise the most make agreement with China about global warming few months back. White fire anger steams from every pore cause I said the dreaded O word, Obama. After some the hate oozes out, the response from the nut was they will believe it when they see it and until then they are against the US doing anything about the issue cause you know China.

Ok so here is my next statement. So I guess we should just stop trying to ban abortion in the US. I mean its legal in China. And when it is banned here rich people will just send their girls to China to abort the pregnancy.

Talk about stunned look.

[AwakeAtLast]

16. No, rich girls will just get a "D&C"

Doctors here make extra on those.

[trusty elf]

14. The God that these people collectively conjure up in their minds

must be a really swell fellow if he's bestowing gifts like those.

[Zambero]

15. So in other words

A woman who is raped but does not become pregnant should feel "disappointed" because nothing "beautiful" resulted from the rape?

Or even: She was raped but it turned out OK because at least she was gifted with a child as a result of the otherwise violent act?

[MrMickeysMom]

18. Yeah… that's pretty much how I read this disgusting statement...

So, remember all you oppressed and abused… when you've officially been penetrated against your will… hope for a good sperm, and thank GORD. Just open up them flood gates, cause the thugs who are Jah-eezz-zuss stabbers said you should.

These people are a piece of work, aren't they?

[Zoonart]

19. Every Sperm Is Sacred

[Coventina]

20. Melissa Harris Perry says it better than I ever could. Please watch:

[littlemissmartypants]

37. Needs posting in Video & MultiMedia, imo.

Thanks.

[Coventina]

41. Thanks! I have just done so.

Thanks for thinking of that.

[sulphurdunn]

21. Of course people like Kurcaba

are also prepared to let those "beautiful" children and their sexually assaulted mothers starve rather than spend a nickle of public money on them after the baby is born. I would be curious to hear what Kurcaba had to say about an amendment attached to this bill that would provide generous cradle to grave financial and social support for both children born of sexual assault and their mothers.

[Rocknrule]

23. Probably something like:

"Let those freeloading milk-sucking little shits starve, what do I care?"

[valerief]

22. If he was raped, I wonder if he'd find out he actually likes it. Another

silver lining.

Fucking sadist!!!!

[onehandle]

24. Getting all rapey for 2016.

Please proceed, GOP.

[iandhr]

25. It says something

When stuff like this no longer surprises you

[christx30]

26. Republicanism, ladies and gentlemen.

Getting government off our backs, and into your uterus.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

27. Didn't GOP install those devices that give a shock when the word "rape" is about to be said?

In all their candidates and officeholders?

What happened?

[ck4829]

28. But when that beautiful child applies for food stamps or welfare, he becomes a mooch or a parasite?

[jmowreader]

43. Or needs the hole in his school's roof fixed

[Cryptoad]

29. Geez,,,

almost makes me want to be raped!

[tclambert]

30. Okay, I haven't heard a Republican say anything stupid about rape in a while.

I thought maybe they had grown a conscience or some ability to reason and learn. But no, they were just on a break.

Next up, another Republican will deny the war on women.

[Rocknrule]

35. Just like when they complain about the "race card"

when someone calls them out on a blatantly racist statement, like that aide and his "zoo animals" comment

[truthisfreedom]

31. And what beautiful gift could come from his being raped?

An incurable disease? These pro-rapists need to be called out for what they are. The American Taliban.

[jmowreader]

44. There's no way he could possibly be raped

You'd have to pull his head out of his ass first...and you'd need one of those trucks they tow 747s around with to do it.

[whereisjustice]

32. Surreal. Exactly what a sociopath who is oddly familiar and comfortable with rape would say.

[blackspade]

33. Asshole.

[radicalliberal]

36. I wonder how he would feel if he could be impregnated by a rapist.

Better yet, I wonder how he would feel if his wife or his daughter were impregnated by a rapist. Especially a rapist who belonged to the "wrong" race, social class, ethnic group, etc. Would he be willing to care for that child? It's always easy to be sanctimonious about something that would never happen to you.

[blkmusclmachine]

39. 14 Defining Characteristics Of Fascism

5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.

http://www.rense.com/general37/char.htm

[daleo]

42. He wouldn't say that if it was his wife or daughter

"Don't worry, dear, think of this as an opportunity for both of us to grow spiritually"

[Yavin4]

46. I have given up on thinking that Republicans can't get any lower

Because they can and always do.