Florida law would ban transgender people from choosing their restroom

[Judi Lynn]

Source: Guardian

Florida law would ban transgender people from choosing their restroom

State lawmaker Frank Artiles calls for measure based on a person’s gender assigned at birth: ‘Anatomy dictates where you should go to the bathroom’

Jessica Glenza in New York
@JessicaGlenza
Friday 6 February 2015 17.54 EST

A Florida bill would require people to use bathrooms according to the gender they were assigned at birth – or face criminal charges and lawsuits.

Christian legislator Frank Artiles, a Republican state house representative from Miami, introduced HB583 in the Florida legislature on Wednesday, as a “public safety measure”. A committee assignment is pending.

“The whole purpose of this was to protect, especially females, from criminals,” Artiles said.

The bill defines gender as a “person’s biological sex, either male or female, at birth”. If enacted, the bill would charge people with a misdemeanor if he or she used a bathroom, fitting room, locker room or shower intended for the gender opposite the one he or she was identified with at birth. It would also allow others in the bathroom to sue in civil court.

“Single-sex public facilities are places of increased vulnerability and present the potential for crimes against individuals using these facilities, including, but not limited to, assault, battery, molestation, rape, voyeurism and exhibitionism,” the legislation reads.










Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/06/florida-bill-crime-transgender-restroom

[shenmue]

1. Oh Lord

The ignorance never ceases to amaze me.

[niyad]

2. how, exactly, do they plan on enforcing this? what invasion of our privacy will they be

instituting?

[rurallib]

26. Every place that has a public restroom will need to hire

a 'restroom assignment manager.' This job will entail checking genitalia of all who enter the restrooms and directing them to the proper room and making sure they go there and there only.

And Republicans say government doesn't create jobs.

[Trillo]

28. Perhaps, but that's not what the article says.

The article says gender assigned at birth, so your Restroom Assignment Manager would also need to be a time traveler. Perhaps a psychic.

The job description could also be called Marketing Expert for the Gender Reassignment surgeons.

[Dont call me Shirley]

3. In sharp contrast...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3254220/posts

Santa Fe mayor wants gender-neutral bathrooms
KOB Eyewitness News ^ | February 4, 2015 | Stuart Dyson
Posted on February 4, 2015 at 11:44:46 PM MST by Reverend Saltine

Updated: 02/04/2015 6:58 PM | Created: 02/04/2015 8:10 AM By: Stuart Dyson, KOB Eyewitness News 4 Don't flush this idea down the drain just yet. Santa Fe's mayor stirred up quite a controversy with a plan for public restrooms that both men and women would use - but hang on - it's probably not what you're thinking. Javier Gonzales is not talking about men and women sharing big public restrooms. He's talking about ones with one toilet and one sink. Sometimes they're called "family" restrooms. You've seen them at places like Starbuck's and Target. "Right now businesses across New Mexico already have gender neutral bathrooms, many of them do," Gonzales said. You get an idea of how it would work by visiting the Santa Fe Convention Center. There's a women's room with three stalls. Guess what? It's going to stay a women's room. Across the hall there's a men's room. It has three stalls. It's going to stay a men's room. In the middle is the one the mayor is talking about. It's got one toilet and one sink. The door locks. Privacy. You don't share anything. The mayor says his plan does target one group in particular. "It sends a huge message to an important part of our community, that you can be safe," Gonzales said. "If you're transgender, there's a place for you to go." And you can go there too - if Gonzales gets his way. He will soon present restroom legislation to the city council.

[niyad]

5. or, as a deceased du member and my best friend pointed out, "into which restroom do I take my

disabled husband, who cannot manage the toilet on his own?"

I have been many places where there are gender neutral restrooms. seems like an obvious idea to me.

[LiberalElite]

12. Heck, they even have one in the

law firm where I work.

[LiberalElite]

13. for that matter - they're in every home in America! nt

[niyad]

22. when phyllis schlafley used to whine about unisex bathrooms as a reason for defeating the ERA,

I asked her if the males and females in her household used separate bathrooms. she snarled at me.

pretty sure I remember that they are unisex on planes.

[LiberalElite]

23. and trains too! -

I recall two jobs I had where we had unisex bathrooms because - one location was a former nursing school dormitory and the other was a residence for unwed mothers. Only one sex was in there at one time - we utilized a sign on the door to let co-workers know which one's in there at any time. The men were always outnumbered by women so they were at a disadvantage. Other than that, no problems.

[niyad]

24. so I have never understood what the major maladjustment is, and why they get so hysterical.

[truthisfreedom]

4. Not a bad idea for new builds.

Lotta burden on aging businesses.

[greymattermom]

6. family restroom

Great for single dads with little girls. And all sorts of other situations.

[onehandle]

7. On the off chance I ever go to Florida again (unlikely)...

I will only go into the mens room after slipping on a dress.

The short hair, lack of makeup and heels, not to mention the five o'clock shadow, should confuse Florida Man greatly.

[Turbineguy]

8. This is one of those things

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that the policy of having no policy is the preferred policy.... (Yes, Prime Minister)

If, on the other hand, you are somebody who enjoys watching others using the toilet, I can see this sort of thing needs to be organized.

[misterhighwasted]

9. Following in the steps of Michele Dugger's trans gender fear/hate mantra

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/18/michelle-duggar-anti-discrimination-proposal_n_5689840.html

(snip)...according to the Fayetteville Flyer. In the robocall, Duggar -- who is a conservative Baptist -- addresses the issue of transgender individuals' right to use the proper restroom.

"Hello, this is Michelle Duggar. I’m calling to inform you of some shocking news that would affect the safety of Northwest Arkansas women and children. The Fayetteville City Council is voting on an ordinance this Tuesday night that would allow men – yes, I said men – to use women's and girls' restrooms, locker rooms, showers, sleeping areas and other areas that are designated for females only. I don’t believe the citizens of Fayetteville would want males with past child predator convictions that claim they are female to have a legal right to enter private areas that are reserved for women and girls. I doubt that Fayetteville parents would stand for a law that would endanger their daughters or allow them to be traumatized by a man joining them in their private space. We should never place the preference of an adult over the safety and innocence of a child. Parents, who do you want undressing next to your daughter at the public swimming pool’s private changing area?"
------------------------------------

Fayettville successfully passed a Transgender discrimination law, with Mz Dugger's assistance.

[Cal Carpenter]

10. "...places of increased vulnerability ..."

Yeah, especially for, I dunno, someone born with male genitalia who identifies and presents as a female going into a men's bathroom.

[Major Nikon]

11. Sure, because there's no shortage of men surgically removing their penes...

just to sneak into women's restrooms and rape them.

Fucking morans.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

14. In florida are they going to paint one pink and one blue

I think Republicans needs some therapy

[LiberalFighter]

15. Why are the religious confused screwed up?

Why would transgender female be a threat to women if they use stalls in restrooms for women?

[seveneyes]

16. Are they looking for credentials for transgender people?

Rather than just letting people decide to select the restroom they desire on their own volition? I can't fathom anyone faking their gender just for giggles, shits or grins.

[icymist]

17. I love how they keep equating transgender people as criminals.

Just for going to the bathroom! These people need to grow up and enter the 21st century.

[ChosenUnWisely]

18. Another Fine example of Theocratic Fascism from American Christians

When people ask why am I so anti religious, I just point out BS like this.

[dembotoz]

19. so looking obviously like one sex and going into the "wrong" bathroom is not disruptive

stupid brain dead ignorant fucks

[davidpdx]

20. So I guess they'll be groping people to double check

That will be embarrassing the first time someone smacks them upside the head for touching their genitals.

[dembotoz]

25. new state farm ad..... do they get a discount?

[HappyMe]

21. What fucking idiots!

Every time I think a bit of headway is being made.....BOOM! The stupidity comes back bigger and better than before.

[One_Life_To_Give]

27. Sort of Begs for a group of Transmen to visit the Capital Ladies room

Maybe it would get the point across if they were presented with a stream of people who's appearance didn't match their expectations.