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turbinetree

(24,710 posts)
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 12:16 PM Dec 2017

I decided this morning to listen to what Kate Jackson had to say about this tax bill

Last edited Mon Dec 18, 2017, 04:06 PM - Edit history (1)

and her economic analyst from Yahoo business.

He basically said that he would get a $2100 tax refund how nice and rosy, that he got to brag about, and he also bragged that through "independent analysis" everyone gets a tax break, my answer BS.

And that a lot of people would only get about a $20 per year tax refund after all is said and done, and the those making more with real estate would get a lot like Corker and Trump will get "their pass through", and not pay any tax, because after all they are developers and own property, so all of the other tax payers in this country have to pay these assholes taxes, because they are taking a "chance" in developing the property, and after they, the developer the property they also get a depreciation in the tax, and will be able to write-off this cost and pass it on to everyone else that pays taxes in this country, in other words we , those making less than $75,000 dollars a year are not only supporting this "corporate pass through" through scum bags, but we have to pay our tax bill and theirs, how fucking quaint to get a average $20.00 a year in tax refund , and that he ( the Yahoo economist) also said the he would not be affected with AMT, because now since he makes the threshold amount, everyone below him has to pay his tax, on that earned income, because he doesn't, but he didn't explain that way.

Through out the conversation, not one word was mentioned about the simple fact, that the health care mandate will be gone, this economist, didn't say one word and neither did Jackson on the issue.

So, in this rant these two people are full of shit, and they just reinforce the right wing talking points.

Why, because now that the health care funding has been taken away, thanks to Collins, Murkowski, McCain, Corker, Flake, Heller, and the other elitist of that fucked up party, fucking people out of the ACA mandate, with there twisted logic that somehow, health should be a for-profit industry of the haves and the have not's, because that the way of being america.

If someone gets sick, all the money they may get in a refund will now have to pay off that medical bill, you may be able to write it off, but in the "current" form you have to meet the threshold, that you have paid out of your "total earned income" over 7.6% in medical costs to get the "deduction".

So, if you paid 7.3% into medical costs, well lets' just say your fucked, your left holding the bill, with no means to write -off that cost. Because now instead of being able to write-off all that money you gave to the insurance company to help pay for your monthly bill, well if it isn't 7.6% then you can't claim it.

But don't worry, they, the kelpto fascist republicans in the Congress of the United States being run by kelpto fascist called republicans get their health care while, the sick will now have to compete against the so called healthy, and all of that "refund" money will have go to health care costs, that whopping $20.00, because after all the sick have to subsidize the healthy to stay off health insurance.








To all of those that have responded, I meant to say Kate Jackson and not Katy Tur and I do apologize............

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I decided this morning to listen to what Kate Jackson had to say about this tax bill (Original Post) turbinetree Dec 2017 OP
They haven't voted yet so keep calling. BigmanPigman Dec 2017 #1
Calling all now Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #4
It is Lankford in Oklahoma and I think we are wasting our breath. redstatebluegirl Dec 2017 #8
Can't stand tur Faux pas Dec 2017 #2
The whole problem with this kind of analysis is that they say "on average" MiniMe Dec 2017 #3
Yepper, spot on turbinetree Dec 2017 #5
Not only if YOU get sick, but if your wife, your kid, your brother, your sister, your parents... lostnfound Dec 2017 #6
You can tell Katy Tur what you think on Twitter RandomAccess Dec 2017 #7

BigmanPigman

(51,622 posts)
1. They haven't voted yet so keep calling.
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 12:25 PM
Dec 2017

The House votes tomorrow and the Senate on Wed. Many DUers are still calling...IT IS NOT OVER!
Don't wait until the mid terms. CALL the GOP NOW! KILL THE BILL!
We can stop the Tax Scam too. IT IS NOT OVER! Add Rubio and Lee (Utah) to your list. Keep pressuring them daily. Call(202)224-
McCain (AZ) 2235
Flake (AZ) 4521
Collins (ME) 2523
Heller (NV) 6244
Murkowski (AK) 6665
Moran (KS) 6521
Johnson (WI) 5323
Young (IN) 5623
Rubio (FL) 3041
Lee (UT) 5444
Landlord (OK) 2651
Daines (MT) 5754

**McConnell (KY) 2541 Tell him to hold off the vote until Jones is seated. Obama waited to vote on the ACA in 2010 until a newly elected REPUB was seated!
***Corker (TN) 3344 Tell this TRAITOR what the bill will do to you (since he isn't running again).

Call, tell your friends and family, use social media and hammer the GOP every DAY! If you get a voice mail leave a message. The staffers DO tally them up and keep track. It literally takes 2 minutes to call one GOP rep (call both houses too). RESIST !
Here is a source for events, rallies and protests throughout the US.
https://notonepenny.org/take-action/#events

Eliot Rosewater

(31,113 posts)
4. Calling all now
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 12:40 PM
Dec 2017

McCain, cant leave comment, directed to website

oh wait, you can but one wonders why the disclaimer up front...

Flake & Collins, left for both, message...hope I am not only one doing this

Murkowski, leave message

McConnell is a fucking traitor no good fucking traitorous fucking punk
and this fuck wont accept messages

Jesus christ...I better not be the onLy one FIT to be TIED

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
8. It is Lankford in Oklahoma and I think we are wasting our breath.
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 01:51 PM
Dec 2017

He is my senator and I called his office but he is owned by big oil and Harold Hamm wants his tax cut and he wants it now.

Faux pas

(14,687 posts)
2. Can't stand tur
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 12:27 PM
Dec 2017

couldn't stand her throughout the whole election/campaign season. On top of everything, she has one of the most annoying voices on tv. Mini rant off.

MiniMe

(21,718 posts)
3. The whole problem with this kind of analysis is that they say "on average"
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 12:38 PM
Dec 2017

If you talk about $10k in tax cuts, a billionaire may get a 10k tax cut, but 9 people get nothing. So they say "on average" everybody gets a 1k tax cut. But who gets the tax cut makes a difference.

turbinetree

(24,710 posts)
5. Yepper, spot on
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 01:15 PM
Dec 2017

what is really disingenuous is that she even had this conversation, it meant totally nothing, no solutions, just effect for some rating

lostnfound

(16,189 posts)
6. Not only if YOU get sick, but if your wife, your kid, your brother, your sister, your parents...
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 01:27 PM
Dec 2017

Your niece or nephew or closest friend...
Because we are all connected, and when someone in your life or $30;000 operation to save their lives, what are you going to do?
Especially when insurance companies have a monopoly on discounted rates, and hospitals charge walk-ins at three times the rate. Yah, put it on the credit card.
Oh, I know, we can put little glass jars on the counter next to the register at your local diner.

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
7. You can tell Katy Tur what you think on Twitter
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 01:34 PM
Dec 2017

Don't expect an answer, but it's satisfying to be able to give direct feedback, whether or not it's actually read.

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