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kentuck

(111,103 posts)
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 07:55 PM Dec 2017

Are members of Congress exempt from prosecution by the law?

Can they be questioned under oath?

Can they be guilty of obstruction of justice?

Can they be guilty of perjury?

Are they subject to the same laws as the rest of us?

Just curious.

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Are members of Congress exempt from prosecution by the law? (Original Post) kentuck Dec 2017 OP
No. elleng Dec 2017 #1
No they are not exempt, but there are the following exceptions specified in the Constitution. PoliticAverse Dec 2017 #2
Can that be right? NotASurfer Dec 2017 #3
Nuance - they can't be arrested for what they said... but if they detailed things they did karynnj Dec 2017 #4
Devil, meet detail, again NotASurfer Dec 2017 #5
This is known as the "speech or debate clause" of the Constitution. The specific wording is... PoliticAverse Dec 2017 #6

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
2. No they are not exempt, but there are the following exceptions specified in the Constitution.
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 08:00 PM
Dec 2017

Last edited Fri Dec 15, 2017, 09:02 PM - Edit history (1)

They can't be arrested when they are on their way to attend congress.

They can't be prosecuted for anything they say during a session of congress.

Edited to add the exact phrasing from the Constitution:

They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.


NotASurfer

(2,151 posts)
3. Can that be right?
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 08:35 PM
Dec 2017

Say Senator X decides to detail exactly what they did to help Russia throw the election, with Trump's enthusiastic participation, during open session in Congress. Trump POed to the point of no pardon? Doesn't matter because Constitution?

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
4. Nuance - they can't be arrested for what they said... but if they detailed things they did
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 08:39 PM
Dec 2017

years before, they can be investigated for that. I do not know if what they said could be used to prove what they did NOT ON THE FLOOR OF THE SENATE, but even if they can't certainly their speech would create a roadmap that could be followed to find admissable evidence.

NotASurfer

(2,151 posts)
5. Devil, meet detail, again
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 08:49 PM
Dec 2017

But considering some of our representatives inability to grasp the Constitution it might be worth writing a letter or two of suggestion. Or putting it out there on alt-right blogs as a good idea and hoping they take the bait.

Nah...they can't be that dumb, can they?

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
6. This is known as the "speech or debate clause" of the Constitution. The specific wording is...
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 08:59 PM
Dec 2017
and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.

For an extensive analysis of the clause see this 2012 Congressional Research Service paper (.pdf):
https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R42648.pdf

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