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L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 04:55 PM Dec 2017

Republicans are in panic mode, concocting absurd Mueller scandal.

This past week the concerted effort to question the integrity of law enforcement has sharply increased.
One has to wonder how soon Mueller's indictments will be unsealed and/or handed down.
Add to that, people are literally breaking the law to further the anti-Mueller conspiracy.













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Republicans are in panic mode, concocting absurd Mueller scandal. (Original Post) L. Coyote Dec 2017 OP
I hope Dworkin is right ProudLib72 Dec 2017 #1
I'm sure they are in for jail time. They know it too, and are in panic mode. L. Coyote Dec 2017 #6
is there anything to be done... dhill926 Dec 2017 #2
Proof that Mueller has the goods and is about to nail them all. lindysalsagal Dec 2017 #3
All I can say is that Trump and his supporters are really scared. Sophia4 Dec 2017 #4
I suspect it is more choosing a nuclear option than panic. Hortensis Dec 2017 #5

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
1. I hope Dworkin is right
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 05:00 PM
Dec 2017

I hope these asshats get a severe (legal) beat down. We can only hope that this is the end of Faux Nooze.

dhill926

(16,346 posts)
2. is there anything to be done...
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 05:24 PM
Dec 2017

besides protesting in public. I really don't know...any laws being broken?

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
4. All I can say is that Trump and his supporters are really scared.
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 07:17 PM
Dec 2017

The links between the Trump campaign team (and many in his government) and Putin and Putin's cohorts are far too many to be coincidental and unimportant.

Where there are that many links, something is going on.

Also, there is motivation. Russia has oil and gas. Russia shares an interest in the Arctic region with us. Exploration of the Arctic for oil may be a big part of the motivation behind Trump's crush on Russia and possible collusion or conspiracy with Russia during his campaign.

There is money to be made in Russia's oil and gas provided the US continues to be addicted to oil, and the Trump regime is dead-set on keeping the US hyped on oil.

DUers, our country is in peril.

The Russia scandal is the most superficial symptom of the problems we face.

Our entire economy runs on oil and coal with a little nuclear in the mix. The wind and solar components are relatively small.

There is lots of money to be made in oil. And as a representative of the Canadian nuclear energy industry stated in January 1974 at the First World Energy Conference in London (No link -- I was there), with solar energy (and some other forms of alternative energy), there is "no product to sell" and therefore no money to be made selling it. Fossil fuels make lots of money for those who sell them to an addicted public. I can't repeat that often enough.

But oil pollutes our air, our oceans and our homes. If we don't get off oil, don't kick our addiction to oil (and coal and fossil fuels altogether), there is a very good chance that our civilization will become impossible. It could even mean the end of all human life on our planet. I could be wrong, but . . . .

Think about what is happening in Southern California -- the fires, the high temperatures (80s today, sun shining brightly, we have all doors and windows open because it is unseasonably, incredibly warm for a December day). It's beautiful, pleasant -- but it is, no question, a catastrophe. We haven't had rain since at least June maybe April. Instead, we got fires, big ones, and winds, very strong ones, that spread the fires. Again, it's a catastrophe.

Man cannot survive on earth with the global warming that our use of fossil fuels is causing.

Russia is connected with the Republican effort to prevent us from dealing with the crisis of global warming. Russia has fossil fuels it wants to sell, needs to sell.

Granted, that Russia's desire to unload its fossil fuels with our help is just my theory. Others may disagree.

But, for me, the Russia investigation is not about Hillary or her e-mails as Trump and Fox News suggest. It's not an excuse for Hillary's loss in the election (of course she won the popular vote by about 3 million votes, but that's for another post). It's about Trump's wanting to lift the sanctions on Russia and postpone making the changes to our economy, especially our energy sector, that we must make if we are to remain a strong country.

If we don't switch as quickly as we can away from oil, coal and gas as our primary fuels, our economy will fail.

Other countries are moving away from fossil fuels. We need to join them.

Trump wants to impeded our progress away from these toxic fuels. That's what the Russia scandal is about. That's why regressive, conservative forces oppose the Mueller investigation. That's my opinion.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
5. I suspect it is more choosing a nuclear option than panic.
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 07:54 PM
Dec 2017

If only it were panic. This is a battle for power between ultraconservative forces and the left, lead by the Democratic Party.

What if they fire Mueller, our highest courts order them to comply with the constitution, and they refuse that order?

What if most conservatives have chosen to believe the current flood of lies that the investigation is an attempt by Democrats to overthrow the government. What if, as usual, another third or so of the people have no idea who to believe and their confusion is far more useful to those threatening to break our democracy than those fighting to protect it?

What if those who do take to the streets are suppressed by police and government troops?

Right now they are laying ground for this. Fox has become a propaganda organ for the Trump administration. Remember that Fox woman who said top FBI agents in the NY office need to be arrested and taken out in handcuffs? She looked like a caricature of a fascist voice for a fascist government, and Fox clearly believes viewers will support that as obedient authoritarian followers.

If this proceeds forward may depend on whether they think they can get away with it. Many of the people on the right, including the billionaires who mostly control congress have no intention of losing.

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