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rogue emissary

(3,148 posts)
2. Sorry in advance if this comes of as negative, but what's the point?
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 02:39 PM
Dec 2017

They served and wouldn't stand up and be counted as a non-believer.

Laws and public opinions changed for the LGBT community because they started to identify themselves to family and friends. It wasn't easy or always welcomed but it led to their gains and moving public to supporting them.

brooklynite

(94,602 posts)
11. The person in question wasn't elected to be "counted as a non-believer"...
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 03:09 PM
Dec 2017

...they were elected to represent their constituents. As long as their votes aren't inconsistent with their philosophy, I don't believe it's necessary to assert religious non-belief. Millions of atheists don't feel the need to assert non-belief for the sake of the atheist movement; it's just who they are.

rogue emissary

(3,148 posts)
13. Then why are you classifying this person as an atheist?
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 03:24 PM
Dec 2017

The reason I think other atheists or non-believer need to identify is we are not being represented by any group. Democrats tolerate us but our issues aren't even up for discussion. Those that run and won't identify themselves aren't doing non-believer any help.

I don't think the person you had lunch with should be outed. I'm not following you identifying them as an atheist at the same time highlighting they don't really want to be identified as an atheist.

brooklynite

(94,602 posts)
16. There's a different between a private meeting with someone you know where the subject comes up...
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 03:38 PM
Dec 2017

...and a publicly stated position.

Funtatlaguy

(10,879 posts)
4. The final closet?
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 02:41 PM
Dec 2017

In some quarters, this is the worst thing you can be.
Maybe someday that won’t be the case.

DFW

(54,410 posts)
6. There are plenty of Atheists in Congress
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 02:48 PM
Dec 2017

Just none who can get elected to Congress if they admit it.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
15. and the ones who are loudest about their Christianity are the MOST un-Christian
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 03:36 PM
Dec 2017

I firmly believe that. There's a line in the Bible about that nonsense that I happen to agree with.

It's too bad you can't admit your atheism in Congress. The place would be better for it.

DavidDvorkin

(19,479 posts)
14. It's a sad comment on America
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 03:34 PM
Dec 2017

that atheists in Congress know that coming out will destroy their political careers.

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