Beware of Twitter Announcements about Mueller Indictments.

[MineralMan]

They're just guesses. They're also just clickbait. The people making those guesses are also people who are trying to make a living by guessing things and getting click-throughs to their blogs, etc. Their "sources" exist only in their imaginations.

Bottom line is that when indictments are actually released, you'll hear about them immediately from trustworthy media sources. Anything else is just rumor-mongering, designed to get you to click on some link or another. If there were really sources who knew when indictments would be released, they'd be talking to news people, not twits.

We all want indictments of people in the Trump crime family. We want them desperately. Some people are using that want to line their wallets with the green stuff. Don't fall for it.

When indictments are issued, we'll know that immediately. Someone will post the links to legitimate news stories here within a minute or two of the announcement. Until then, there is no news. Just guesses and rumors.

Thanks for reading.

[Wounded Bear]

1. Sage advice...

we've been down that road before.

[MineralMan]

4. We've been down that road almost constantly, lately.

It's a wrong turn on people's GPS or Google Map directions. Turn back and recalculate.

[ret5hd]

2. Thanks again, Grandfather.

We depend on you!

[MineralMan]

6. You can call me Pop-pop.

[tblue37]

46. Isn't that a Jonas Brothers song?: MM-Pop-Pop. nt

[Generic Other]

3. I am more worried Trump will try to fire him

Do you think he will?

[MineralMan]

5. Hard to say. He might. But, we'll know about that just

as quickly. If you see someone claiming that he is going to do that, it's another guess or rumor, designed to get you to click on something. Internet rumors are pretty much a waste of time. Almost always.

[Generic Other]

10. I guess the rumormongers know they have a 50/50 chance of being right

Some people do seem to make good guesses. But caution is a wise policy.

[MineralMan]

15. Yes, although it's really lower than that.

People like Louise Mensch get it right about 1 out of 20 times. A lot of DU regulars could beat that percentage with guesses. It costs nothing to make predictions about things like that. If you can attract enough clicks, you can make a little money, one way or another.

It's best not to feed the twittering animals, though. It's better if they have to hunt for their own food.

[bdamomma]

11. if trump does

fire Mueller the investigation will go on. Now would anyone in their right mind go after Intelligence Agencies??? we know tRump is not in his right mind.

[cwydro]

7. Thank you.

Spot on.

[FreepFryer]

8. Ayup. (n/t)

[Hoyt]

9. Well put. I'm tired of folks saying these people are accurate in their predictions, they aren't.

It's worse than stock market predictions.

Hopefully one day they will be right, but it won't be because they had creditable inside info.

[MineralMan]

16. No, they're not. Maybe they get 1 in 20 right.

You or I could do just as well, and probably better. I don't get the popularity of the Twitter fake pundits at all. Why we fall for bullshitters and rumor mongers, I do not understand.

[marylandblue]

49. Hmm, I see a potential business opportunity here

20 of us DUers should get together and tweet random predictions every day. We all link to a shared blog where we rant and rave about how horrible things are. At least one of us is bound to be right that day, get a lot of clicks and make money. Once we get a decent following, we can outsource to Russian bots.


Are you in?

[MineralMan]

50. I think not. I'll pass.

[NurseJackie]

12. It would be a nice Christmas gift... wouldn't it?

Just in time to MAKE my Christmas and RUIN theirs.

[MineralMan]

19. Sure it would. I hope that happens, too.

However, I'm sure we'll know immediately, so I can wait until there is actually news of it.

Rumor porn isn't my thing.

[getagrip_already]

29. I'm not sure there is enough coal in Wyoming...

To fill tRumps stocking and all the other gop rats on the naughty list. Maybe santa will just have to leave them an energy credit slip[.

I'm not on twitter. What am I missing?

[LonePirate]

13. Plenty of people and several DUers bought into yesterdays rumors of numerous indictments today.

It’s looking like those rumors were unfounded. People believed them because they wanted them to be true.

[MineralMan]

17. Exactly. Those Twitter rumor-mongers live to confirm our hopes.

We're being used by them. They're not news sources. They're purveyors of Rumor Porn.

[bluestarone]

28. but right or wrong

some people had a good day! yesterday because of them. we all live to see another day! it's true they could be wrong. We just have to live with it and accept it when wrong or right.

[LonePirate]

40. Its very dangerous for society when people are willing to accept rumors/lies because they feel good

If there are facts to support such speculation, then fine. Otherwise, it’s simply an encouragement for the perpetrators to throw out more rumors and lies if they are warmly accepted by the recipients. That’s no different than the mindless deplorables who happily lap up the lies and propaganda from Fox News and then ask for more.

[bluestarone]

48. very true IF accepted as facts BUT

when i read them i DO NOT ACCEPT THEM AS FACTS! i'm sure others don't either. Do you accept all as facts? That WOULD be a problem But i don't see people complaining much here about them being all wrong (maybe a few) but overall i feel people here are smart enough to not believe until IT'S TRUE! sry but that's my opinion. I enjoy reading them and just hoping some are true, or will be true.

[Yonnie3]

14. But, but, whaddabout when they were right?

That one in a million tweet.

[MineralMan]

18. Yeah...that one time when they were right

in their guesses. I can't remember when that was, but there was that one time.

[Yonnie3]

22. Yeah, it might take a week or two or a month or two.

The only good I see in this nonsense is that perhaps some will divert their attention from Twitter speculation to actual news for a while. Of course, that is just my speculation.

[wishstar]

20. We'll probably get hints from attorneys for Kushner or whoever gets indicted next

Before the previous indictments, we were tipped off by attorneys indicating court activity. There may be some breaking news expose typical of late Fridays, causing chatter people are claiming to hear, but I have not seen the kind of tip offs yet involving attorneys that we saw before the Manafort and Flynn indictments.

[MineralMan]

24. Friday news dumps are pretty popular.

There might be one today, but there might not. We'll know by the end of the day.

[Hekate]

21. Last Night DU was chock-full of that stuff...

I've been way off my usual news-junky schedule on MSNBC, and it was baffling to say the least. Thanks for the reality check -- I hope a lot of people here cash it soon.

[MineralMan]

23. I missed that. I just got back from my trip to California.

I've been out of touch for a few days. I noticed that people were taken in by rumors, once again.

There will be indictments issued when there are indictments issued. We'll know about them right away. I hope they come soon, just like everybody else, but I can wait until that actually happens.

If there was any truth to those rumors, we'd be hearing about them on our normal news sources. Why anyone would leak real information to Twitter "pundits" is beyond me. It makes no sense. Logic dictates that people with real inside information would know perfectly well who they could leak it to in the real news media.

Twits get crap from people who really don't know anything, or they make it up themselves. The latter is the most likely.

I just don't get people's continuing reliance on such weak sources.

[Maeve]

25. Well, we've had a taste and we want MORE!

So patience is difficult to achieve and any sign seems good enough for hope to spring back up...

Muellertime is drawing near,
Time for joy and time for cheer;
We've been good, but we can't last--
Hurry, Mueller, hurry fast!
Want indictments every day,
Want the tRumsters hauled away!
We can hardly stand the wait,
Please, Mueller, don't be late!

[HipChick]

26. Well said...I'm travelling overseas...

and DU is my main news source right now..

[Cryptoad]

27. If Mueller doesnt move on him soon,,,,

they are going to put him on that slow train to Siberia !!!!!

[Oneironaut]

30. Thank you, MM!

Be aware of your own biases. If the thought of questioning a source of information makes you angry, do some introspection and wonder why?

Remember - Twitter is the Wild West in terms of information. Information can range from primary, solid sources to “facts” invented by some kid on their mother’s computer. Information should be treated with skepticism and put through the wringer before being accepted as fact.

[Eliot Rosewater]

31. For some of us "hope" is like a cure we must have it otherwise we die.

I put up a thread yesterday about the buzz on twitter from people I follow who I have no reason to think are intentionally misleading.

They may very well be wrong, but I have to have hope and I want to CELEBRATE justice when it does happen, with somebody, here or wherever.

[Clarity2]

36. But false hope is

bad. For your sanity & health. It keeps you on this up & down rollercoaster. The adrenaline rush, then the free fall. This is what exhausts people. And disinfo accounts know this. From someone who has adrenal problems, I know this succinctly.

[onenote]

44. The line between "intentionally misleading" and "blowing smoke out of their asses" is very thin

A lot of the tweets and posts about imminent indictments are exactly what the OP describes -- speculation with little or no reliably sourced basis.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

32. The willingness to believe unfounded rumors

astonishes me. I don't do the Twitter thing and I'm pretty limited in what I look at on the internet so I mainly see the rumors as they're reported here. I've been known to ask if something is a credible source and often don't get a reassuring answer.

I really doubt that there will be actual leaks ahead of any further indictments. If there even are any. My best guess is that Mueller will wind up his investigation in the next couple of months, write a report and pass it on to Congress. No indictments. No resignations that matter.

Mueller Time is going to wind up the same nothing as Fitzmas.

[getagrip_already]

33. muehler seems to like to time his actions at the end of the month.....

not the middle.

About the only thing he has released mid month are leaks about who has been interviewed or what docs sought. Don't know who leaks them, but they seem to come early to mid month when he is trying to flip people.

[Kirk Lover]

34. No shit. Maybe we should beware of threads that state the obvious.

[Clarity2]

35. 100% agree

I finally unfollowed a couple of the big clickbait accounts that I already had on mute last night. We will know when we know...when MSM has backed up a story with multiple sources, and not these fly by nights that have to keep the narrative going in order to maintain their "donors".

[still_one]

37. Anything from twitter is suspect period. People should know that after everything we have been

through

[Vidal]

38. You Are Wrong

Your basic premise is completely wrong.

First, there already have been indictments issued, but they are sealed. So they haven't been made public.

I follow people on twitter who know that indictments have been issued and they have always been right. Examples are Manafort and Flynn (one of my sources predicted the guilty plea way in advance).

They have never predicted WHEN Mueller will unseal the indictments and make them public, which is a completely different thing.

You seem obsessed with a clickbait problem that I think is not a problem.

There are many credible sources on twitter.

[triron]

39. Thanks for this push back.

I tire of the naysayers.

[Kirk Lover]

52. They just suck the joy out of everything. n/t

[Clarity2]

41. If you are basing

your opinion on Mensch tweets, she also predicted Flynn would get the death penalty. And Trump was given impeachment papers on the tarmac by the "Marshall of Scotus". Among a million other conspiracy theories. Oh please. We all predicted a long time ago someone would get indicted. Eventually.

[Bradical79]

53. Who are your Twitter sources?

[Kaleva]

54. Your sources are no better then the speculation here on DU

One didn't need to be an insider to be able to predict that Flynn and Manafort were in deep legal jeopardy and it's been talked about for months here that Flynn will probably seek a plea bargain deal.

[snooper2]

67. You are aware there are indictments for other people for other crimes unrelated

It's not like the federal court system exists for the single Mueller investigation LOL..

You know this.. right? I hope

[Iggo]

68. "I follow people on twitter who know..."

List them, please.

[jumptheshadow]

42. You mean the one from this guy?

Rep. Will Bailey?
@RepWillBailey
4h4 hours ago
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Kushner, Have a large breakfast. Fill up that tummy. Take a long walk. Get some fresh air. See your family. Maybe take in a show. Spend time with your wife.

You’ll thank me later.

[HopeAgain]

43. I especially don't trust a tweet from anonymous tweeters

Unless it's the Blue Jay outside my door. He doesn't like to use his real name in case the cat is listening.

[Siwsan]

45. Well, it's Friday so maybe something, even a tiny something, will break

I've got nothing better to do than monitor things while I'm sitting in a waiting room, anyway!

[Mira]

47. Came off the pins and needles

to recommend your wise words. Back now!

[PdxSean]

51. I predict . . .

. . . it will soon be revealed that Miss Cleo is the source behind most posts making predictions.

[H2O Man]

55. There are efforts

to make sincere citizens disappointed in the Mueller Team. Such "rumors" may be intended to raise expectations, when there is no actual immediate delivery. The forum member who I believe to be most accurate had recently noted we should expect late February to be when the shit hits the fan. And Malcolm Nance confirmed what I wrote a couple of days later.

[MineralMan]

56. Yeah, late February sounds about right.

I suspect they're probably already working on wrapping things up, consolidating all of the information, and deciding what and who is going to end up with indictments. It will be very interesting, no doubt.

[shanny]

57. Ya think?

[L. Coyote]

58. Mueller probably already has sealed indictments against Trump and others .....

Link to tweet

[PasadenaTrudy]

59. I'm guessing

their initials are L.M. and C.T.

[Gothmog]

60. There have been no leaks from the Mueller camp

I am impressed with the professionalism of the Mueller team

[MineralMan]

61. Yes. I think they're doing a great job.

And keeping things quiet until they're done is a great idea, too.

Mueller is running a tight ship there.

[SCantiGOP]

62. Any rumor, no matter how implausible

will instantly get a posting here on DU.
I really wish people would be a bit more discriminating in checking to see if anything is more than a made-up fantasy (or maybe even a GOP or Russian troll posting) before putting it up.

[Ccarmona]

63. I totally disagree with the OPs premise

Those posting “rumors” are based on facts and verified information. Their timing might be off, but they do their research and provide verifiable information to backup their claims.
And, personally, with so much disparaging news coming at us every day, these people give me hope that eventually justice will prevail.

[MineralMan]

64. Yeah. OK.

[Iggo]

65. Verifiable backup? I missed that part.

[BamaRefugee]

66. It's funny, I got skewered yesterday for my post, people saying "WE DON'T SPECULATE ON DU!!!!!"

I'd say DU is at LEAST 50% speculation, what else can you call posts about possible election or legislation outcomes? Or possible indictments, arrests or forced resignations?

And I wouldn't have it any other way.