Peggy Noon on Morning Joe today: women should have more babies.

[CTyankee]

Her context was what she called a "population crisis." The she loudly commanded: Have more babies!

I gagged on my Raisin Bran and was pissed off all morning.

Then I vowed to let DUers know this a.m. Then I decided to calm down and take a shower...

I looked for the clip on Youtube but it wasn't there. If someone finds it, please post it (if you can stand it).

[mucifer]

1. Every sperm is sacred

[lunasun]

2. Women baby factories. Plus it is very important to climate change issues to overpopulate!

Guess the equal sign doesn't work on title line ... Women = Baby factories

[CTyankee]

8. The enraging thing was that it was in the context of the budget discussion...

I guess the idea is that only by having more children who grow up to be taxpayers can we afford Medicare. It's the stupidest argument that I've ever seen, but it is used by RWingers to discourage abortions (and, of course, birth control).

That Peggy actually advances this argument on Morning Joe is really outrageous.

[Glorfindel]

3. Thanks, CTyankee. A country that can't (or won't) care for its current citizens

has no business urging the creation of more of them. Peggy should shut up and go away.

[hlthe2b]

4. they want WHITE WOMEN to have babies....

and have no problem that POC die in childbirth (black women 3-4 x more often than white women). Yet THIS is the "party of pro-LIFE" Yeah

[trotsky]

5. Kinder, Kueche, Kirche. n/t

[CTyankee]

9. Yep. I wish someone would have reminded Miss Snooty Face that the Third Reich

was pro-birth for non-Jewish German women, but pro forced abortions for Jewish women.

Mika and Joe should ban Peggy from their show, just as they rightfully banned Kellyann Conway...

[Glorfindel]

19. I googled for a translation ("children, kitchen, church") and came up with this picture

along with lots of other:

http://pics.livejournal.com/dm_kalashnikov/pic/0005cpzq/s320x240

Is it just me, or does this look alarmingly like a younger, blonde Sarah Palin?

[alarimer]

6. Meaning: have more WHITE babies

We can solve the "population crisis" (it's not real) with immigration, if they are really worried about it (they are not).

Anyway, who wants to have kids when there is no social safety net for people, no good jobs with good pay and benefits and ridiculously expensive health care?

[Neema]

7. Yes, that's JUST what this planet needs. More humans.

Good lord.

[lame54]

10. There's a clip on youtube of you taking a shower?

[CTyankee]

15. yeah, but you don't wanna see it...

[ellie]

11. Yes, have more children

but you don't get health care for said children, child care for said children, and no more tax breaks for said children. Peggy Noon needs to crawl back into her bottle.

[C_U_L8R]

12. Why didn't she have more babies???

Speak for yourself, Peggy.

[snowybirdie]

13. But Peggy

How come you only had ONE son? You're Irish Catholic afterall. Why not lots and lots of babies? Oh wait, guess that excellent education and high falutin career come first.

[DFW]

14. Ryan was saying it too

Welcome to the age of packaged Republicans. They are fed their lines, and all repeat them in some form for as long as they are told to. There doesn't appear to be a lot of original thinking in that party. They must know we notice, but as long as their own base does not, that is all that matters to them.

[Tikki]

16. This is a Putin thing. They all seems to admire him so....

Why Putin is paying women to have more children... Inside Russia's super families..

A special prize for parents of seven or more children– the Order of Parental Glory – was established in 2008, Russia....

more..
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/10/putin-paying-women-have-children-inside-russias-super-families/


Tikki

[dixiegrrrrl]

18. the Order of Parental Glory........

Reminds me of a saying from the long ago 70's:

If men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacred act.

[SharonClark]

17. Noonan and that little right-wing toady who started talking Catholic doctrine to pro-choice

Dem John Delaney. She started the conversation with "so you support late term abortion" and it went downhill from there. Joe Scar, who was offsite, came in at the end and said something like "We'll have you back on when you won't face an inquisition of 3 Catholics on the panel".

No one defended that there is a reason women get late-term abortions, it allowed Noonan to spew right-wing lies.
Delaney's responses were generally good.

[CTyankee]

20. I saw that and I got pissed all over again!

I thought that whole subject had been pretty much taken care of but I see it rising like a zombie once again. My daughter had developed a toxic condition (I think it was HELLP, affecting the liver) during her pregnancy. Luckily, it was late enough in her pregnancy that her baby was viable and she had a C section. My grandson was born just fine.

I just wish they had some medical people on the show to talk about the small number of later term abortions and why they are necessary and also how abortions are done much earlier in the first trimester.

Delaney's response was good but I don't find him all that exciting as a candidate at this point.