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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJust a friendly reminder: Robert Mueller is not your trained monkey.
He's got his own timetable and he's going to work accordingly.
So far he's nabbed the former Trump campaign manager and an associate, and flipped two individuals associated with Donald Trump, including his former National Security Advisor.
He's not blowing smoke.
There will be more indictments. With the information that Flynn has likely provided him, this will become a family matter for Donald Trump very soon.
But he's going to work on his own terms. So let him work.
FSogol
(45,490 posts)Watch this spot!
Kirk Lover
(3,608 posts)saying that? Being told that Mueller is on his own time table is unnecessary...like DUH.
Kaleva
(36,312 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)And when he leaks tactically it's to people he trusts to get it out discretely and effectively. Not Twitter flimflammers.
FSogol
(45,490 posts)and radio hosts with financial ties to RT.
shanny
(6,709 posts)so why would they be bleating about imminent indictments? It's so hard to keep up.
FSogol
(45,490 posts)shanny
(6,709 posts)FSogol
(45,490 posts)shanny
(6,709 posts)I am knee-jerk suspicious of the phrase "far left" since all too often it seems to mean, "someone further left than I am."
Vidal
(642 posts)we didn't need this post at all.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I fell for it the day prior to Mueller indicted Flynn and Manafort.
The important thing is we keep mocking other people to feel better about our own inadequacies, regardless of what spots we click.
FSogol
(45,490 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Bless your heart.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)Dilly Dilly?
Kirk Lover
(3,608 posts)feeling sad about. Give me a break ! What's sad is that you 'care' about this that much where you need to start a thread about it...so I feel sad for you.
These breathless posts...who will it be?!
Its this one! No! Its that one!
Maeve
(42,282 posts)We need patience--NOW!!!
Muellertime is drawing near,
Time for joy and time for cheer;
We've been good, but we can't last--
Hurry, Mueller, hurry fast!
Want indictments every day,
Want the tRumsters hauled away!
We can hardly stand the wait,
Please, Mueller, don't be late!
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,182 posts)And something might happen today.
But it might not.
Just saying if nothing happens today, it doesn't mean nothing's going to happen soon down the line.
Maeve
(42,282 posts)and it was time to get them written!
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,182 posts)MFM008
(19,818 posts)Just not as fast as most of us want.
Kirk Lover
(3,608 posts)teee heeee made me giddy true or not because I believe that one day, maybe not today or tomorrow but it's a gonna happen. WE ALL KNOW THIS!!!!!! YAAAAY.
bluestarone
(16,976 posts)talking about it helps people make it thru there day!! So what's the problem? people (including me) just like reading and dreaming ok?
AJT
(5,240 posts)orangecrush
(19,572 posts)It is a counterintel investigation now.
It is the gift that keeps on giving.
And Trump can not shut it down.
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)What exactly makes this investigation beyond Trump's power to interfere? I am nervous every day. Need someone to calm me down!
orangecrush
(19,572 posts)would mean the military and spy agencies are involved, and what we are seeing is the tip of the iceberg.
These would continue to run even if Trump is able to shut down the public aspect.
orangecrush
(19,572 posts)this operation went on for 40 years, resulted in multiple indictments regardless of who was in the White House.
And if they know for a fact Trump is involved, they WILL bring him down.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venona_project
orangecrush
(19,572 posts)from the wiki link...
"Although unknown to the public, and even to Presidents Franklin D. Roosevelt and Harry S. Truman, these programs were of importance concerning crucial events of the early Cold War. These included the Julius and Ethel Rosenberg spying case and the defections of Donald Maclean and Guy Burgess to the Soviet Union.
unknown EVEN TO THE PRESIDENTS....
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)He shouldn't mess with them really. They know all his secrets.
orangecrush
(19,572 posts)he can rely on Putin's cohorts connected to his business, advisors, etc. to prevent him from being removed.
That is, imo, why the Flynn indictment is monumental.
I doubt Trump has slept well since then.
EricMaundry
(1,619 posts)If you don't like it, don't read it.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,182 posts)But inevitably when subsequent events don't immediately justify the speculation, people tend then to get overly pessimistic.
Rather than going on a wild pendulum swing ride with excited speculation followed by disappointments, it's best to maintain an even strain.
And trust Mueller's process.
bluestarone
(16,976 posts)this
Denzil_DC
(7,244 posts)Nervous people with guilty consciences make mistakes.
FSogol
(45,490 posts)of the bailiwick of teenage mean girls. While Mueller might use pressure, I doubt he is handing out hints to the twitterati.
Denzil_DC
(7,244 posts)Nobody who's at all credible on past record as a source has claimed the "leaks" or predictions came straight from Mueller, but rather from IC contacts.
Whatever, deliberate strategy or not, it's certainly making the social media bots nervous. And WH briefers are wary of even mentioning Russia to Trump because he goes ballistic.
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PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,862 posts)Fitmas all over again.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,182 posts)But maybe not today.
Or maybe it will.
Vidal
(642 posts)why do you feel compelled to tell other people what to do or say?
It's not up to you.
I find your comments very insulting.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,182 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)or patience, I remind them what happened in 2010 when Obama didn't fix 200 yrs of problems overnight and people stayed home on election day because Obama didn't get them a public option and so on.
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Oneironaut
(5,504 posts)The reaction of Obama didnt change anything!!! in 2010 was rather sad and embarrassing. Those who jumped ship and voted Republican made things even worse.
Our society now demands everything instantly. Things do take time.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)point is an excellent one.
These anticipations by myself and others is NOT "why is he taking so long", not at all, in fact I would be surprised if anything happened this soon, actually.
So yes, he will do a fantastic job and we will accept the results and he will do it in his time.
Oneironaut
(5,504 posts)He is a neutral entity that is investigating if Trump did anything wrong. His investigation may exonerate Trump, or not touch him at all.
Mueller is not the Liberals champion for taking down Trump. Thats not his job. It is our job to oppose Trumps agenda.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,174 posts)Comey was Obama's and so our, choice to continue as head of the FBI. He was for us, before he was against us, before he is for? us? Not sure now.
Mueller is also a stanch Republican appointee. He'll do his job. But who's to say there won't be back room deals with the GOP leadership that, while not NOT doing his job on possible Russian interference in the election in a general sense, he will not focus on any Trump / Putin direct relationships. It may still come out scathing against Putin, and Wikileaks and Facebook as the primary instruments.
I remember OP after OP back in the mid 00's enthusiastically declaring IT'S OVER FOR CHENEY AND BUSH!!! THIS IS IT THEY ARE GOING DOWN!!!!"
So I, myself, am tempering my anger knowing that I might go bat shit looney if Trump is exonerated (or at least not enough to convict). Their is a bigger battle than Trump the person now. He has unleashed a second wave of braver emboldened deplorables that are here to stay now that they have been given a voice.
yuiyoshida
(41,832 posts)But I don't trust a Republican as far as I could throw them, and that isn't very far. They won't impeach him, unless their ASSES are on the line too.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)It's unlikely he'll get to the terrible one, so I'm assuming he won't. One day at a time. When stories break and indictments come, then I pay attention.
scheming daemons
(25,487 posts)Sedona
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