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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 11:03 AM Dec 2017

Trump's Lies vs. Obama's Lies

December 15, 2017 at 9:37 am EST By Taegan Goddard

New York Times: “After we published a list of President Trump’s lies this summer, we heard a common response from his supporters. They said, in effect: Yes, but if you made a similar list for previous presidents, it would be just as bad.”

“We’ve set out to make that list… We applied the same conservative standard to Obama and Trump, counting only demonstrably and substantially false statements. The result: Trump is unlike any other modern president. He seems virtually indifferent to reality, often saying whatever helps him make the case he’s trying to make.”



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https://politicalwire.com/2017/12/15/trumps-lies-vs-obamas-lies/

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Trump's Lies vs. Obama's Lies (Original Post) DonViejo Dec 2017 OP
No fair! I wanted to post that! DetlefK Dec 2017 #1
And, I'm guessing that he will soon surpass NewJeffCT Dec 2017 #2
Surely he already has. forgotmylogin Dec 2017 #7
drumpf's off the Lie-ometer Charts. democratisphere Dec 2017 #3
he's going semi-logarithmic on us! 0rganism Dec 2017 #10
Reverse the axis. democratisphere Dec 2017 #12
Fox news cited politifact Obama 98 vs trumps 108 Watchfoxheadexplodes Dec 2017 #4
That "keep your Doctor" thing bugs the shit of me. genxlib Dec 2017 #6
Yeah. Failing to secure a guarantee in legislation that you didn't craft is not the same as a lie. Orsino Dec 2017 #8
Chuck Todd: "... they both lie ..." uponit7771 Dec 2017 #5
"103 lies?" yallerdawg Dec 2017 #9
Yeah what are they talking about? Maybe they mean lies about policy because in general Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #11

0rganism

(23,957 posts)
10. he's going semi-logarithmic on us!
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 11:43 AM
Dec 2017

seriously going to have to rethink how to scale these charts by the time he's done

Watchfoxheadexplodes

(3,496 posts)
4. Fox news cited politifact Obama 98 vs trumps 108
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 11:14 AM
Dec 2017

Their logic was each time President Obama cited you can keep your doctor.

Any talking point to throw at trumps 30 percent crowd.

genxlib

(5,528 posts)
6. That "keep your Doctor" thing bugs the shit of me.
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 11:17 AM
Dec 2017

Not knowing the potential impacts of a policy is not a lie. At best it is a naive assumption about what affects your policy would have.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
8. Yeah. Failing to secure a guarantee in legislation that you didn't craft is not the same as a lie.
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 11:38 AM
Dec 2017

n/t

 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
11. Yeah what are they talking about? Maybe they mean lies about policy because in general
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 11:52 AM
Dec 2017

this guy has lied waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more than Obama, waaaaaaaaaaaay more than any politician.

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