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applegrove

(118,659 posts)
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 05:49 PM Dec 2017

NY attorney general identifies 2,000,000 fraudulent net neutrality comments, urges FCC to delay vote

By Walter Einenkel at the Daily Kos

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/12/13/1724044/-NY-attorney-general-identifies-2-000-000-fraudulent-net-neutrality-comments-urges-FCC-to-delay-vote

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“Millions of fake comments have corrupted the FCC public process – including two million that stole the identities of real people, a crime under New York law,” said Attorney General Schneiderman. “Yet the FCC is moving full steam ahead with a vote based on this corrupted process, while refusing to cooperate with an investigation. As we’ve told the FCC: moving forward with this vote would make a mockery of our public comment process and reward those who perpetrated this fraud to advance their own hidden agenda. The FCC must postpone this vote and work with us to get to the bottom of what happened.”

The FCC’s lawyers and chair Ajit Pai have tried to hide from Schneiderman by saying that this issue is outside of his jurisdiction. Ajit Pai has proven to be either an idiot or a liar time and again, and this is yet more proof—in the form of 2,000,000 pieces of evidence that must be investigated before any decisions about anything related to net neutrality are pursued.

Attorney General Schneiderman’s latest analysis shows that as many as two million comments misused the identities of real Americans, including over 100,000 comments per state from New York, Florida, Texas, and California. A map can be found below, highlighting the number of fake comments submitted using stolen identities by state.

Despite widespread evidence that the public comment process was corrupted, the FCC’s General Counsel has said that the agency will not cooperate with the Attorney General’s investigation into the impersonation of New Yorkers, and that it will move forward with tomorrow’s scheduled vote.


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NY attorney general identifies 2,000,000 fraudulent net neutrality comments, urges FCC to delay vote (Original Post) applegrove Dec 2017 OP
This, i fer us wat wil hapen with any serius investigation... pangaia Dec 2017 #1
Thanks. K&R TheBlackAdder Dec 2017 #2
Ajit Pai is an ex Verizon lawyer. He wants this badly JDC Dec 2017 #3
Yeah I dropped Verizon. 47of74 Dec 2017 #5
Good for you. When I go back to CO from the East Coast JDC Dec 2017 #6
I hope NYs AG will pursue who did it anyway. Wouldnt surprise me if dae Dec 2017 #4
Thanks for the text in your post. I just emailed both my Republican Senator and my Republican PatrickforO Dec 2017 #7
TWSJ: Millions of People Post Comments on Federal Regulations. Many Are Fake. mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2017 #8

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
1. This, i fer us wat wil hapen with any serius investigation...
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 05:55 PM
Dec 2017

"FCC’s General Counsel has said that the agency will not cooperate with the Attorney General’s investigation into the impersonation of New Yorkers..."


Including Muellers

JDC

(10,127 posts)
3. Ajit Pai is an ex Verizon lawyer. He wants this badly
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 07:33 PM
Dec 2017

When he is done at the FCC, it will be right back to Verizon where he will be made for life. He is the Rex Tillerson of communications.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
5. Yeah I dropped Verizon.
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 08:06 PM
Dec 2017

I had to eat part of the cost for doing so but I feel better having done so.

JDC

(10,127 posts)
6. Good for you. When I go back to CO from the East Coast
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 08:18 PM
Dec 2017

I will drop them as my Cell carrier for myself and family. Unfortunately I can't get any other service here worth a salt for signal....

PatrickforO

(14,574 posts)
7. Thanks for the text in your post. I just emailed both my Republican Senator and my Republican
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 08:30 PM
Dec 2017

Representative to act to prevent this vote. I urge you all to do same.

Thanks!

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,454 posts)
8. TWSJ: Millions of People Post Comments on Federal Regulations. Many Are Fake.
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 08:51 PM
Dec 2017
Millions of People Post Comments on Federal Regulations. Many Are Fake.

Long article, and no paywall.

Retweeted by David Fahrenthold: https://twitter.com/Fahrenthold

WSJ found 7,800 people who said comments posted on federal agencies’ regulatory dockets in their names were fakes. It’s a felony to knowingly make false statements to a federal agency.



HIDDEN INFLUENCE

Millions of People Post Comments on Federal Regulations. Many Are Fake.

A Wall Street Journal investigation uncovered thousands of fraudulent posts on agencies’ dockets, in hot-button areas such as net neutrality and payday lending

By James V. Grimaldi and Paul Overberg | Graphics by Shane Shifflett

A comment posted on the Federal Communications Commission’s public docket endorses a Trump-administration plan to repeal a “net neutrality” policy requiring internet providers to treat all web traffic the same. ... Calling the old Obama-era policy an “exploitation of the open Internet,” the comment was posted on June 2 by Donna Duthie of Lake Bluff, Ill. ... It’s a fake. Ms. Duthie died 12 years ago.



The comment filed under Donna Duthie’s name, with some details redacted by The Wall Street Journal.

The Wall Street Journal has uncovered thousands of other fraudulent comments on regulatory dockets at federal agencies, some using what appear to be stolen identities posted by computers programmed to pile comments onto the dockets.

Reports earlier this year of fraudulent comments on the FCC docket prompted the Journal to investigate the phenomenon there and at other federal agencies. After sending surveys to nearly 1 million people—predominantly from the FCC docket—the Journal found a much wider problem than previously reported, including nearly 7,800 people who told the Journal comments posted on federal dockets in their names were fakes. ... The Journal found instances of fakes that favored antiregulation stances but also comments mirroring consumer-groups’ pro-regulation talking points, posted without permission of people whose names were on them.
....

The scope of the fake comments is evident on the FCC website in 818,000 identical postings backing its new internet policy. The agency is expected on Thursday to roll back President Barack Obama’s 2015 rules, which telecommunication companies have called onerous. Consumer groups and Internet giants such as Alphabet Inc.’s Google and Facebook Inc. back the Obama rules and have fought efforts by FCC Chairman Ajit Pai to nix them. .... In a random sample of 2,757 people whose emails were used to post those 818,000 comments, 72% said they had nothing to do with them, according to a survey the Journal conducted with research firm Mercury Analytics.
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HIDDEN INFLUENCE | MILLIONS OF PEOPLE POST COMMENTS ON FEDERAL REGULATIONS. MANY ARE FAKE.
By James V. Grimaldi and Paul Overberg | Graphics by Shane Shifflett

@jamesvgrimaldi

@poverberg
paul.overberg@wsj.com

UPDATED DEC. 12, 2017 2:13 P.M. ET

Retweeted by Paul Overberg: https://twitter.com/poverberg

How we found the thousands of fake comments http://quid.fyi/2jUtf8q by @poverberg @JamesVGrimaldi @wsj



U.S.

How We Found the Fakes

The Wall Street Journal’s methodology for investigating phony comments filed with federal agencies

By Paul Overberg and James V. Grimaldi

@poverberg
paul.overberg@wsj.com

@jamesvgrimaldi

Dec. 12, 2017 12:58 p.m. ET

For its investigation of fake comments filed with federal agencies, The Wall Street Journal examined documents that agencies compile when making or revising regulations.​The Journal’s financial-regulatory reporters, including Yuka Hayashi, Sarah Chacko and Dave Michaels, provided suggestions for rules to review.

These “dockets” include comments by the public, which agencies must accept and review. Many agencies keep their dockets online and post some or all comments. The Journal used two key approaches:

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