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Well, crap. It looks like Al Franken is going through with his resignation. (Original Post) DFW Dec 2017 OP
He is a man of his word. Nt NCTraveler Dec 2017 #1
That kind of class is all too rare... pangaia Dec 2017 #2
On such a good day mountain grammy Dec 2017 #3
Shows how far we have fallen as a country. Behind the Aegis Dec 2017 #4
I think they will rue the day they did this to him ebbie15644 Dec 2017 #5
I hope so DFW Dec 2017 #10
Very well said, you put my thoughts to words ebbie15644 Dec 2017 #20
DURec leftstreet Dec 2017 #6
He should find a path back. California_Republic Dec 2017 #7
He's going through with his resignation, but he isn't going to ride into the sunset Brother Buzz Dec 2017 #8
Well, all DUers can do is work on mustering our own class. Hortensis Dec 2017 #9
Since Mark Dayton won't nykym Dec 2017 #11
I am not familiar with applicable Minnesota law here DFW Dec 2017 #12
There is no need for special election in MN. LisaL Dec 2017 #14
I think the Frankens are going to be ok nuxvomica Dec 2017 #13
He's no Larry Craig. L. Coyote Dec 2017 #15
Governor Franken. roamer65 Dec 2017 #16
MIne, too, if that's what Franken wants. DFW Dec 2017 #19
One of Franken's DU detractors just inadvertently revealed that he sees DU via Greece. Thor_MN Dec 2017 #17
Maybe he keeps his banking business on Cyprus? DFW Dec 2017 #18

DFW

(54,403 posts)
10. I hope so
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 05:32 PM
Dec 2017

There deserves to be a lot of introspection going on among the Democratic Senators that ran him out, and, I hope, a lot of realization that "there, but for the grace of God, go I."

While the Republican narrowly missed seating the worst embarrassment they could ever wish upon themselves, we just got rid of one of the most eloquent voices (and most dedicated Democrats) that we had in the Senate.

Tom Lehrer, over 50 years ago, sang a song about former Nazi missile scientist (and later NASA hero) Werhner von Braun, "a man whose allegiance is ruled by expedience." There are more than a few of our Democratic Senators about whom the same might said, with regard to Al Franken's fate. This was not our finest hour.

Brother Buzz

(36,441 posts)
8. He's going through with his resignation, but he isn't going to ride into the sunset
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 05:26 PM
Dec 2017

He will still be a voice to reckon with, and will be a burr under a lot of saddles. I'd be happy if he channeled a bit of Steinbeck's Tom Joad:

“Then it don' matter. Then I'll be all aroun' in the dark. I'll be ever'where - wherever you look. Wherever they's a fight so hungry people can eat, I'll be there. Wherever they's a cop beatin' up a guy, I'll be there. If Casy knowed, why, I'll be in the way guys yell when they're mad an' - I'll be in the way kids laugh when they're hungry an' they know supper's ready. An' when our folks eat the stuff they raise an' live in the houses they build, why, I'll be there.”
― John Steinbeck, The Grapes of Wrath


Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
9. Well, all DUers can do is work on mustering our own class.
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 05:30 PM
Dec 2017

Imo, the people who despise all politicians, and especially those willing to destroy them all through a hostility borne of profound ignorance combined with the anxiety of ignorance, are least deserving of what they do have.

My only wonder is what on earth made some fasten on poor Senator Franken, among nearly 200, as a saint sloshing around alone in a cesspit. Just knowing his name from TV exposure helps, sure, but what else?

nykym

(3,063 posts)
11. Since Mark Dayton won't
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 06:07 PM
Dec 2017

have a special election.
Franken should stay and have the ethics investigation.
With Franken staying the Repubs won't loose their shit over it.
So would a bunch of Dems.
But it would keep one vote in the senate.

DFW

(54,403 posts)
12. I am not familiar with applicable Minnesota law here
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 07:01 PM
Dec 2017

So I don't know what is supposed to happen in which order.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
14. There is no need for special election in MN.
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 08:52 PM
Dec 2017

People are confusing Conyer's situation with Franken's.
In Franken's case, governor appointed a replacement.
In Conyer's case, they will have to wait 11 month to vote during their regular election. So Conyer's seat will be empty for those 11 months.

nuxvomica

(12,429 posts)
13. I think the Frankens are going to be ok
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 08:50 PM
Dec 2017

I'm not sure I will be, at the moment. Two of the senators that pounced on him are people I've supported, donated to, even volunteered for. I see them in a new light now. They are going to have to work very hard before I trust them again.

One of my friends who was also really shaken by this whole debacle used to be a liberatarian and a Bush defender. He was turned by Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them. Lots of people were. Franken's been a real asset to the causes we hold most dear.

In the spirit of lighting a candle instead of just cursing the darkness, I made a donation to the Innocence Project.

DFW

(54,403 posts)
19. MIne, too, if that's what Franken wants.
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 05:47 AM
Dec 2017

I was hoping he'd continue to want his Senate seat. His voice is important enough to keep on the national stage, though Minnesota couldn't ask for a more dedicated governor.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
17. One of Franken's DU detractors just inadvertently revealed that he sees DU via Greece.
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 10:08 PM
Dec 2017

Hacker or hacked, I can't tell. But one of the majorly rabid Franken bashers has internet connection issues.

DFW

(54,403 posts)
18. Maybe he keeps his banking business on Cyprus?
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 05:44 AM
Dec 2017

A friend of mine in Stuttgart once had an inquiry from a Russian asking for some credit to buy some fancy object. My friend said, "OK with a bank reference." The Russian gave a bank in the Greek part of Cyprus as a reference. He called the bank, asked to speak to the manager and then asked the manager if he knew the Russian in question. The bank manager laughed. "Of course, I know him. He owns the bank!."

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