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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 06:43 AM Dec 2017

Utter failure Roy Moore insisting he'll demand a recount even though he got his ass totally kicked



Down in Alabama, 100 percent of precincts have counted their votes. The tally:

Doug Jones (D): 49.9

Roy Moore (R): 48.4

Write-in: 1.7
In other words, Roy Moore lost by 1.5 percent. For a Republican running statewide in Alabama, that’s an ass-kicking for the ages.

But while any reasonable person would simply concede, it’s not surprising that a guy who doesn’t believe in science would also struggle with math: Despite trailing by a margin of 20,715 votes, Moore wants a recount.

Hooo boy yeah that’s just not gonna happen. I mean, it literally could happen: According to Republican Secretary of State (and zealous vote-suppressor) John Merrill, Moore is free to request a recount no matter how much he trails by as long as he’s willing to pay. Of course, one of the many things Moore sucked at throughout his campaign was raising money. Can he really find enough willing dupes to finance some kind of WWII-Japanese-soldiers-not-surrendering-in-the-Filipine-jungle-for-decades kind of dead-ender gambit? Yeah, probably.


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Utter failure Roy Moore insisting he'll demand a recount even though he got his ass totally kicked (Original Post) Soph0571 Dec 2017 OP
Newsflash: Republicans are poor losers and they play dirty. Nt raccoon Dec 2017 #1
And perhaps he should also pay for that recount Siwsan Dec 2017 #2
Hooo boy yeah thats just not gonna happen. I mean, it literally could happen: According to Republic Fullduplexxx Dec 2017 #6
How? Some pretty good interpreters of law are saying it has to be a 0.5% or lower margin in AL. n/a Akoto Dec 2017 #3
0.5% for an automatic, taxpayer funded recount. Thor_MN Dec 2017 #11
Beware. Stuff happens during a recount in Alabama. no_hypocrisy Dec 2017 #4
Roy Moore rode a horse called Sassy. Sassy was also a well-loved magazine for teen girls. riversedge Dec 2017 #5
How do we know Moore didn't steal that horse? LiberalFighter Dec 2017 #16
Somebody should first teach this prick how PCIntern Dec 2017 #7
I laughed out loud when that horse ran him off into the woods. Dave Starsky Dec 2017 #8
Headline: Roy Moore Explicitly Defies God's Will Orrex Dec 2017 #9
I had heard that if there is a recount that Moore would have to pay for it PRETZEL Dec 2017 #10
But Strange remains in the seat until replaced... Thor_MN Dec 2017 #12
True, PRETZEL Dec 2017 #15
Doesn't the Reconciliation Option run out at the end of the year? Thor_MN Dec 2017 #17
You could be right about Reconciliation, PRETZEL Dec 2017 #19
Moore has trouble raising money but some RW PAC could come in to help if they want to riversedge Dec 2017 #20
This is simply not true. Maybe watch what he actually said. L. Coyote Dec 2017 #13
I did not hear that either. Tipperary Dec 2017 #18
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2017 #14

Siwsan

(26,264 posts)
2. And perhaps he should also pay for that recount
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 06:48 AM
Dec 2017

I understand there are necessary criteria that trigger automatic recounts, but this margin doesn't seem to hit the trigger point. So, if he wants one, I say he should have to pay for it.

Fullduplexxx

(7,863 posts)
6. Hooo boy yeah thats just not gonna happen. I mean, it literally could happen: According to Republic
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 08:30 AM
Dec 2017

Hooo boy yeah that’s just not gonna happen. I mean, it literally could happen: According to Republican Secretary of State (and zealous vote-suppressor) John Merrill, Moore is free to request a recount no matter how much he trails by as long as he’s willing to pay. Of course, one of the many things Moore sucked at throughout his campaign was raising money. 

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
11. 0.5% for an automatic, taxpayer funded recount.
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 10:02 AM
Dec 2017

If Moore, or more precisely, donors pay for the recount, it doesn't matter how much he lost by. Remember that Strange remains the Alabama senator until he is replaced. So there is going to be no hurry in the AL SOS office to proceed, expect a recount to be announced the week after Christmas, the recount and appeal could take a long time.

Recall that Al Franken was not certified after his first election until the end of June the next year... That's some fucking irony right there.

no_hypocrisy

(46,117 posts)
4. Beware. Stuff happens during a recount in Alabama.
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 07:00 AM
Dec 2017

Don Siegelman won re-election when Republicans wanted a recount -- in secret -- of one county. The country originally went for Siegelman and flipped after the recount.

When Siegelman objected, that's when the shit hit the fan. Karl Rove took over.

The wife of Rove's good friend, Leura Canary filed charges against Siegelman for bribery. Those charges should have been dismissed as there were no facts of bribery, but they stuck. From Grand Jury to Jury to Appeal after Appeal, Siegelman lost and was imprisoned until a few months ago.

riversedge

(70,239 posts)
5. Roy Moore rode a horse called Sassy. Sassy was also a well-loved magazine for teen girls.
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 08:04 AM
Dec 2017

Some things are just coincidences, Right???



Harold Itzkowitz? @HaroldItz
12h12 hours ago

Roy Moore rode a horse called Sassy. Sassy was also a well-loved magazine for teen girls.


PCIntern

(25,553 posts)
7. Somebody should first teach this prick how
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 08:32 AM
Dec 2017

to ride a horse. He was clearly incompetent and out of control.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
8. I laughed out loud when that horse ran him off into the woods.
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 09:41 AM
Dec 2017

They probably had to shoot that poor horse with a tranquilizer gun, or Roy would still be riding across the South in a random direction.

PRETZEL

(3,245 posts)
10. I had heard that if there is a recount that Moore would have to pay for it
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 09:54 AM
Dec 2017

and I don't expect that he will have the Republican party supporting this so he'll be on his own. Once he realized that the counties where he won, he won big. But those were his traditional base, the small rural counties where turnout was low. There aren't going to be enough votes out there to make a difference. The traditional Democratic strongholds (my opinion) turnout was alot higher than expected. Those are the majority African American communities and I had seen that the split was something like 96-4. The only way for that split to change would be by some external mechanism and listening to the reports coming out early in the returns, there wasn't much talk of anamolies coming from those districts.

PRETZEL

(3,245 posts)
15. True,
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 10:19 AM
Dec 2017

but Strange is seated until the certification and at the earliest it wouldn't have been until the next session starts after the Christmas recess.

McConnell is just bs'ing.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
17. Doesn't the Reconciliation Option run out at the end of the year?
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 10:25 AM
Dec 2017

I thought the Tax Bill had to pass before year end or it would need 60 votes.

If that is the case, then a recount isn't that much of a bargain. But if Turtle can drag the Tax Bill into January, having Strange and forcing out Franken while refusing to seat a replacement makes a recount seem cost effective.

PRETZEL

(3,245 posts)
19. You could be right about Reconciliation,
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 10:31 AM
Dec 2017

I haven't been as versed as I would normally be over the last couple of years. If Reconciliation is used then the compromise bill would have to come back really quickly and as far as I know it's still in conference committee. It could happen.

riversedge

(70,239 posts)
20. Moore has trouble raising money but some RW PAC could come in to help if they want to
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 10:31 AM
Dec 2017

buy time. Time will tell.

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