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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe GOP won't be nominating clowns again
It cost them most of Virginia and now a Senate seat. The GOP is most likely going to get the "nominate the most morally repugnant candidate to piss off the SJW's" wing (AKA Trumpists) in line. There won't be another Moore. The adults, such as they are, will try and take charge and bring the 4chan brigade to heel.
We need to replicate our successes with turnout here throughout the country. Not relying on the GOP to step on a rake.
The Wielding Truth
(11,415 posts)NCDem777
(458 posts)they would have won. The less psychotic GOPers would not have wrote in other people.
I'm not saying the achievement in black turnout isn't impressive.
What I am saying is that we need to have a plan to keep that turnout high and motivate our voters to keep showing.
The alt-right's "nominate the worst people we can find for the sole purpose of making SJW's complain" strategy might be fun for Internet trolls on 4chan and elsewhere, but won't be seen as viable by actual adults in the GOP, such as they are, going forward. It cost them Virginia and now this.
We're going to see the adults reassert themselves. Gotta get ready.
rzemanfl
(29,565 posts)Sen. Walter Sobchak
(8,692 posts)If the local shit kickers know better they can't do too much to stop them.
NCDem777
(458 posts)the swing states (Ohio, Michigan, etc.) and the soon to be swing states, are a whole other animal.
Sure, it's possible that Internet trolls and their leaders like Bannon and Milo might force a few crazies that are just crazy enough to cause write-ins to tip the election.
But they can't be relied on. We have to replicate our success in AL.
Willie Pep
(841 posts)Primary voters tend to be more extreme than the average voter and this can sometimes hurt you in the general election.
OnDoutside
(19,957 posts)needs to officially blow up, to get the poison out, before that can change.
NCDem777
(458 posts)But I'm not counting on it. Neither should the DNC.
Trump notwithstanding, GOP is capable of feigning sanity when they need to.
OnDoutside
(19,957 posts)hounding out of office of the ordinary decent criminals like Corker, Flake and Dent. The tail is wagging the Donkey !!!
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)Which I heard a lot from Moore supporters. I can't tell at this point but it looks like years of crazy propaganda has led to crazy people running for office not just voting R and watch Fox News. I have you seen Trump's feed?
But to lose a to a Dem in Alabama, let me say it again, Alabama, you know the GOP brass is going to take control. Letting the crazies have the run of the place might have appeared to work in 2016. But I think they're going to think that they just got damn lucky.
It's not every election you run against a person whose staff has no understanding of e-mail security.
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)But we're also hopefully going to be seeing the anti-Trump wave continue into 2018, especially as the jackass keeps reminding everyone what a despicable asshole he is. We defeinitely can't rely on the GOP shooting themselves in the face forever though, we need to keep working damn hard and ensuring we do everything in our control to give ourselves the best possible chance in every race.
In 2009 we thought we had the world at our feet and the GOP were dying an inevitable death. Now they control everything and we're suffering the consequences. The lesson needs to be that never again can we rest on our laurels. Hard work wins elections.
whistler162
(11,155 posts)eliminates many of the House Repubblicans and many Republican Senators from renomination.
Vogon_Glory
(9,118 posts)There are plenty of incumbent Repiggie clowns running for re-election.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)They have lost control of the tea party nuts who now own the nominating process of the party. The far right of the Republican Party will continue to nominate hard to elect candidates. Leadership has no control whatsoever.
Joe941
(2,848 posts)themaguffin
(3,826 posts)TNLib
(1,819 posts)Also you have to look at what has happened to the GOP base. They're basically a bunch of loony's who probably never got involved in politics until the tea party movement. It's going to take the GOP a decade or so to get moderates back in the party to start electing qualified candidates in their primaries.
It's been a slippery slope of pandering to the crazies for decades and now this is the result.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)And if you think the people who don't accept that they lost the Civil War are going to learn from this experience, well then you don't understand how racism works.
FSogol
(45,488 posts)We won in VA because the talked about the issues like transportation, infrastructure, and jobs, while the GOP talked about bathroom police, prayer in schools, flag burning, and a host of other goof ball issues.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)The GOP stands for one thing and one thing only: letting rich white men do whatever the fuck they want. The party is a sitting duck for whatever reactionary tool with no inside voice that comes along to steamroller their bland conservabot career pols.
And they'll all cheer for him.
Bettie
(16,110 posts)how do they un-ring that bell? Because Republican primary voters tend to be drawn from the most extreme and, apparently, the dumbest people in any given district.
brooklynite
(94,585 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,320 posts)herding cats
(19,564 posts)When the GOP validated the Tea Partys dreams by giving Sarah Palin a national platform, they emboldened their crazy, hate filled fringe. Since then theyve pretty lost control of their Frankenstein monster.
delisen
(6,044 posts)A real moral majority taking over from the fake moral majority of faux christianity and supply-side Jesus.
Irish_Dem
(47,114 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,412 posts)We don't want to COUNT on them nominating clowns. But that doesn't mean they won't and it doesn't mean that we don't challenge them whenever and wherever we can. We need to put up candidates in every race and make the Republicans fight for votes.
karynnj
(59,503 posts)They lost Senate seats that should have been easy or at least only moderately hard to keep by going with extremely iffy candidates -- they had a sure thing in Delaware in a race to replace Senator Kaufman, who was the person selected to fill Biden's place and opted not to run for re-election. This seat seemed doomed because the Republicans had a popular, moderate person to run - Mike Castle, who easily was seen to defeat any Democrat. But ... he lost the primary to Christine O'Donnell - best known for having an ad that stated that she was "not a witch". Seriously, having to argue that you were not engaging in witchcraft is really not a good situation. Not to mention -- it seemed she funded her life, living on excess campaign contributions from past failed runs -- pretty ethically challenged.
She may have been the worst, but she was not alone. Sharon Angle who challenged Reid was very strange,
Then in 2012, Ted Akun - saved McCaskill's seat for her with his comments on rape ... and we gained an unlikely seat after Mourdock succeeding in primarying the very likely to win the general election, Lugar.
struggle4progress
(118,290 posts)hatrack
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kcr
(15,317 posts)And there is nothing stopping anything like that from happening again. This is why the whole idea of thinking the GOP can be taught lessons or shamed out of their behavior, or the notion they're looking to us for any moral guidance, is wrong. The strategy of getting our own out to vote won the day. That's how you do it. Dems can never forget how we won this time around because they will certainly keep trying. This time we beat them at their own game. Get out the vote.
drray23
(7,633 posts)Those voters are the ones showing up in the primaries and they will keep electing rw nuts despite what the RNC might want to do. They lost control of their party, its been taken over by extremists.