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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums*** LIVE THREAD - JONES WINS *** ALABAMA SENATE SPECIAL ELECTION ***
Please post updates as they come in.
1% counted - Moore 77%, update to 60% Jones -- waiting for more %
I'm watching MSNBC live, results at the bottom of the screen
Older, men, no college favor Moore
Younger, women, college educated favor Jones
No surprises there.
brooklynite
(94,588 posts)Really no point in reporting anything until we're between 5-10%
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Even at 5-10% you're looking at only a fraction of the overall vote.
Wounded Bear
(58,662 posts)urban and suburban areas with better infrastructure.
obamanut2012
(26,080 posts)Urban/blue areas report last or close to last, smaller rural araes are first.
These early votes are probably absentee.
2theleft
(1,136 posts)It updates every 30 seconds.
a kennedy
(29,672 posts)eppur_se_muova
(36,266 posts)There are some blue spots showing up in unexpected places (I'm ignoring "preliminary" results; results for at least one precinct in).
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)26% in, 60-40 for Jones!
Yes - home of NASCAR!
That could be an early bellwether!
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Jones holds lead 54-46%!
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)51-49%!
Unheard of!!!!
eppur_se_muova
(36,266 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)eppur_se_muova
(36,266 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Great mapping and graphics here:
http://www.cnn.com/election/2017/results/alabama-senate
Jones 53.5% 13,355
Moore 45.5% 11,350
Write-ins 1.0% 244
Link to tweet
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Alabama Secretary of State results are behind CNN in updating, but i suspect this is more official. We should track both.
http://www2.alabamavotes.gov/electionNight/statewideResultsByContest.aspx?ecode=1000915
Jones 3,742
Moore 2,285
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Roy Moore leads by 6 percentage points over Doug Jones with 9 percent of precincts fully reporting.
Roy Moore Republican 50,524 52.2%
Doug Jones Democrat 44,878 46.4%
Total Write-Ins 1,418 1.5%
Looks like the rural vote is coming in first.
eppur_se_muova
(36,266 posts)OK, OK, it's only one precinct ! Still !
UPDATE: Now three precincts reporting. Jones 71.8%
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)eppur_se_muova
(36,266 posts)One with 3.6%
UPDATE: Madison Co. now nearly 4%
Moore could lose by a margin less than the write-in vote. That would mean R's just couldn't vote for Roy.
eppur_se_muova
(36,266 posts)Ugh. This is the first time Moore has pulled ahead.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Live Estimates of the Final Vote
Updated at 8:57:24 PM ET
https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/alabama-senate-special-election-roy-moore-doug-jones?smid=tw-share#eln-forecast-section
Our estimates are based on the results reported so far, the results of previous elections and demographic data. Unlike reported results, they attempt to account for precincts that have not yet reported their votes. The shaded area in the gauge below shows the range of our forecasts.
Right now, our most likely estimates span Jones +13 to Moore +15. The more we know, the narrower our range will be.
Our best guess is that Mr. Moore has a small advantage, but the race is very close.
eppur_se_muova
(36,266 posts)Alabama polls closed at 7 p.m. local time, 8 p.m. ET, but votes are still being cast: Those in line at the timepolls closed are still legally allowed to cast their ballot.
Doug Jones allies including actress Alyssa Milano who is on the ground in Alabama today are urging voters to stay in line.
Alyssa Milano
✔
@Alyssa_Milano
ALABAMA! If you are in line when the polls close you have the right to vote. STAY IN LINE. And if you have any issues please call the Doug Jones Voter Protection Hotline (800) 682-2793
6:55 PM - Dec 12, 2017
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778 778 Retweets
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https://www.nbcnews.com/card/alabama-voters-line-poll-closing-can-still-cast-ballots-n829036
mindfulNJ
(2,367 posts)Still lots to come in...can we still hope?
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)And the Black Belt counties will likely be 90% Jones!
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Candidate Party Votes Pct.
Roy Moore Republican 75,384 50.1%
Doug Jones Democrat 73,177 48.6
Total Write-Ins 1,901 1.3
Thrill
(19,178 posts)Very Pathetic
Alea
(706 posts)These states gave us trump
Alaska
Idaho
Montana
North Dakota
South Dakota
Wyoming
Nebraska
Utah
Arizona
Kansas
Oklahoma
Texas
Louisiana
Arkansas
Missouri
Indiana
Wisconsin
Michigan
Kentucky
Tennessee
Ohio
West Virginia
Georgia
Florida
South Carolina
North Carolina
Pennsylvania
Part of Maine
and Alabama
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,472 posts)Retweeted by Dave Weigel: https://twitter.com/daveweigel
Per exits, white voters with college degrees went for Moore by 59-37. But Romney won that group by 59 POINTS in 2012. Moore also wins 78-20 among white voters WITHOUT college degrees. That's a much larger group (36% of total)
Link to tweet
Also check https://twitter.com/Fahrenthold
and https://twitter.com/washingtonpost
Kaleva
(36,307 posts)Takket
(21,574 posts)that is where Moore needs to build his lead then Jones needs to come back when the cities are counted. The count being about 50/50 right now is BAD for Moore.
eppur_se_muova
(36,266 posts)Akoto
(4,266 posts)Ccarmona
(1,180 posts)Alabama & South Carolina. I will never step into either one of those Racist States. I suggest everyone else do the same. Why spend one hard earned cent to support racism, sexism, and total suppression of critical thought.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Turnout is key at this point.
Ccarmona
(1,180 posts)Moore 114,478
Jones 108,989
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Roy Moore Republican 138,318 53.2%
Doug Jones Democrat 118,077 45.4
Total Write-Ins 3,418 1.3
25% reporting (563 of 2,220 precincts)
femmedem
(8,203 posts)Legends303
(481 posts)Jones is down by 8% that's not good
ClarendonDem
(720 posts)That a Jones win would be absolutely shocking.
bearsfootball516
(6,377 posts)Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)No trolls here, only mooses
renegade000
(2,301 posts)Jones might lose, but it's going to be very close. All the major urban areas that Jones is winning by decent margins are still outstanding...
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)eppur_se_muova
(36,266 posts)Both favor Moor by ~2:1. Both rural, AFAIK
eppur_se_muova
(36,266 posts)Response to eppur_se_muova (Reply #56)
eppur_se_muova This message was self-deleted by its author.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Roy Moore Republican 162,117 51.6%
Doug Jones Democrat 148,109 47.1
Total Write-Ins 4,205 1.3
29% reporting (652 of 2,220 precincts)
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Estimated margin, in pct. points
Jones +2.9
Reported marginNo reported leader
BootinUp
(47,157 posts)Just a tad...
Johnny2X2X
(19,066 posts)77% win chance.
No idea how they're calculating this, but I like it.
eppur_se_muova
(36,266 posts)yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)over 60% chance of winning!
eppur_se_muova
(36,266 posts)Even some counties with more than 50% of precincts reporting.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)jamzrockz
(1,333 posts)I went to bed with Hillary safely in the lead and woke up with the shock of my life. Its not over till it is over. Still think Jones will eek out a win.
jamzrockz
(1,333 posts)Rest easy people
Takket
(21,574 posts)only up about ~20000 but hardly anything has been counted in the counties housing Montgomery, Tuscaloosa, mobile and Birmingham
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Roy Moore leads by 6 percentage points over Doug Jones with 37 percent of precincts fully reporting. Jump to estimate of final result ?
Candidate Party Votes Pct.
Roy Moore Republican 205,763 52.3%
Doug Jones Democrat 182,224 46.3
Total Write-Ins 5,240 1.3
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)Ccarmona
(1,180 posts)eppur_se_muova
(36,266 posts)But NYTimes calling it for Jones !
Ccarmona
(1,180 posts)I see the Times is saying Jones has more paths to Victory, but they havent called it.
eppur_se_muova
(36,266 posts)Scroll to the bottom of the page:
https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/alabama-senate-special-election-roy-moore-doug-jones?smid=tw-share#eln-forecast-section
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Roy Moore Republican 223,600 52.1%
Doug Jones Democrat 200,046 46.6
Total Write-Ins 5,858 1.4
41% reporting (903 of 2,220 precincts)
eppur_se_muova
(36,266 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Roy Moore leads by 3 percentage points over Doug Jones with 48 percent of precincts fully reporting.
Candidate Party Votes Pct.
Roy Moore Republican 254,321 51.0%
Doug Jones Democrat 238,023 47.7
Total Write-Ins 6,599 1.3
48% reporting (1,072 of 2,220 precincts)
Takket
(21,574 posts)long way to go but the vast majority of precincts to be counted are in urban areas where jones has huge leads.
DemocraticSocialist8
(396 posts)Seems like most of the red votes are coming first.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)90% CHANCE JONES WINS!!!!
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)?
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)but at time I posted, it was 90% chance of winning!
It's at 65% NOW and the only deep blue urban votes left to count!
KelleyKramer
(8,969 posts)And Jones still has a lot that will be coming from the major cities
Wow
femmedem
(8,203 posts)Moore meeting his percentage benchmarks, but turnout is way down in white GOP areas.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/alabama-senate-election-results/
eppur_se_muova
(36,266 posts)These are counties with <5000 voters total, in some cases. Montgomery Co has more votes than all combined. These were kind of a "given".
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Roy Moore leads by 4 percentage points over Doug Jones with 50 percent of precincts fully reporting. Jump to estimate of final result ?
Candidate Party Votes Pct.
Roy Moore Republican 267,360 51.3%
Doug Jones Democrat 247,009 47.4
Total Write-Ins 6,948 1.3
50% reporting (1,106 of 2,220 precincts)
eppur_se_muova
(36,266 posts)About half precincts reporting
eppur_se_muova
(36,266 posts)eppur_se_muova
(36,266 posts)LOTS of votes still to come in from Montgomery, Mobile, even B'ham.
Response to eppur_se_muova (Reply #84)
eppur_se_muova This message was self-deleted by its author.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)565,000 votes remain to be counted. We think Mr. Jones leads in that vote by about 14.1 points.
https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/alabama-senate-special-election-roy-moore-doug-jones
regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)Not sure I trust the NYT's election prognostications.
Takket
(21,574 posts)moore's lead keeps creeping up despite most of the red counties being at 100%.... jones should be making up ground at this point, moore doesn't have a whole lot of voted left out there but he's suddenly jumped to a 50k lead.................
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)and the prediction reflect what you report
NOW:
Estimated margin, in pct. points
Jones +2.1
Chance of winning
62% Jones
68% reporting (1,511 of 2,220 precincts)
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Response to grantcart (Reply #79)
eppur_se_muova This message was self-deleted by its author.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Nate Silver 9:37 PM
http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/alabama-senate-election-results/?lpup=14604987#livepress-update-14604987
The Upshots model shows good news for Jones, but it has also been swinging around a fair bit. A few minutes ago, they had him with a 90 percent chance of winning, but that probability is now back down to 67 percent.
I really admire what the Upshot folks are trying to do, but its also worth noting that building a live-updating model based on partial returns is a really hard problem. Among other things, its hard to calibrate your estimates of uncertainty based on empirical data, because (to put this in a nontechnical way) every state and every election is different. So Id keep a watchful eye on the Upshots dials to get an overall sense of how things are trending, but I wouldnt take the probabilities too literally, at least until later in the night.
Ccarmona
(1,180 posts)To pull his magic lever and throw the election to Moore.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Nyt has mostly blue areas left.
But what the heck do i know
https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/alabama-senate-special-election-roy-moore-doug-jones#eln-forecast-section
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)70% probability Jones wins.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)We think about 420,000 votes remain to be counted. We think Mr. Jones leads in that vote by about 14.9 points.
cynatnite
(31,011 posts)GreenEyedLefty
(2,073 posts)I remember the sucker punch last November.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)I did the algebraic for Florida 2000, had to send an alert to Al Gore as he drove to his concession speech. Told them the would win Florida by several hundred votes. They turned around and cancelled the concession.
GreenEyedLefty
(2,073 posts)I can't spell all them big words.
SoCalMusicLover
(3,194 posts)mvd
(65,174 posts)Looking better!
DemocraticSocialist8
(396 posts)Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)How does that county stack up?
renegade000
(2,301 posts)eppur_se_muova
(36,266 posts)eppur_se_muova
(36,266 posts)The big outstanding precincts are all blue. Some heavily blue. Moore's lead is shrinking, and there's basically no way it can go back up.
ETA: The outstanding votes from Jeff Co alone should swamp Moore's current lead.
Takket
(21,574 posts)Takket
(21,574 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Roy Moore leads by 3.0 percentage points over Doug Jones with 77 percent of precincts fully reporting. Jump to estimate of final result ?
Candidate Party Votes Pct.
Roy Moore Republican 446,905 50.8%
Doug Jones Democrat 420,520 47.8
Total Write-Ins 12,357 1.4
77% reporting (1,714 of 2,220 precincts)
Estimated margin, Jones +1.7
Chance of winning 63% Jones
Akoto
(4,266 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Fox News just said at 10, 9 CT Jones will win, but too close to call!
Legends303
(481 posts)If Moore wins he is going 3-5% but this not good for the Moore campaign. The fact that a Democrat is competing here should send alarm bells to the White House and the GOP tonight.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)We think about 292,000 votes remain to be counted. We think Mr. Jones leads in that vote by about 6.7 points.
GreenEyedLefty
(2,073 posts)It's looking better and better for Jones, per NYT.
eppur_se_muova
(36,266 posts)eppur_se_muova
(36,266 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)GreenEyedLefty
(2,073 posts)Ccarmona
(1,180 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,066 posts)Jones will win. Down only 0.4 now.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Roy Moore leads by 0.5 percentage points over Doug Jones with 85 percent of precincts fully reporting.
Roy Moore Republican 511,562 49.5%
Doug Jones Democrat 506,894 49.0
Total Write-Ins 15,817 1.5
85% reporting (1,879 of 2,220 precincts)
eppur_se_muova
(36,266 posts)ecstatic
(32,705 posts)If Doug Jones pulls this off, I will be so happy and proud of Alabama resisters!
GreenEyedLefty
(2,073 posts)Please, oh please. Let Jones win.
eppur_se_muova
(36,266 posts)ALL CAPS JUSTIFIED
Response to eppur_se_muova (Reply #123)
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Ccarmona
(1,180 posts)Good
Jersey Devil
(9,874 posts)Takket
(21,574 posts)jones just took the lead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and moore has NO strongholds left..............
Tatiana
(14,167 posts)Jefferson County will deliver!
Hopefully Mobile County will deliver too!
Akoto
(4,266 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,066 posts)Wow!! We need this!!!
eppur_se_muova
(36,266 posts)It's basically over at this point, looks like.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Got your forks out yet?
eppur_se_muova
(36,266 posts)NYT saying >95% chance of a Jones win.
Response to eppur_se_muova (Reply #133)
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Sancho
(9,070 posts)DemKittyNC
(743 posts)So HAPPY right now!!! GO SENATOR DOUG JONES!!!!!!!
ecstatic
(32,705 posts)for DOUG muthafckin JONES!!
DemKittyNC
(743 posts)or with harm on others but I hope he has a fucking stroke! He deserves it more than anyone I ever knew. Can't wait for his rage tweeting on this one!
Ccarmona
(1,180 posts)🧐
Takket
(21,574 posts)eppur_se_muova
(36,266 posts)Not absolute mathematical certainty, but damn near in the bag at this point.
Tatiana
(14,167 posts)WOW!!!!!!!!!!!
Look at all those BLUE counties across the middle of Alabama. I don't ever think I've seen an electoral map for a Democrat in this kind of Southern state.
WOW!!!!!!!!!
Is Texas next?????????????
nolabear
(41,984 posts)defacto7
(13,485 posts)Denzil_DC
(7,242 posts)Link to tweet
✔
@AP
BREAKING: Democrat Doug Jones won election to the U.S. Senate from Alabama in a sharp blow to President Trump that narrows the GOPs majority in the Senate to two. He beat Roy Moore, a former chief justice of the state Supreme Court who had been accused of sexual misconduct.
bagimin
(1,333 posts)Takket
(21,574 posts)KelleyKramer
(8,969 posts)This looks like a 30 point swing to the Dems!
Takket
(21,574 posts)Ccarmona
(1,180 posts)DesertRat
(27,995 posts)In announcing Jones' win, Dana Perino said this is NOT a movement, "Alabama is an outlier".
GreenEyedLefty
(2,073 posts)So proud of Alabama!
YES! The system works. It works when you get out and VOTE. When Democrats VOTE they WIN.
This is what has to happen in 2018.
eppur_se_muova
(36,266 posts)... suggesting that the number of R's who voted, but couldn't bring themselves to vote for Moore, may have made the whole difference.
Damn, I'm getting tired of replying to the wrong post.
Ccarmona
(1,180 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)We think about 64,000 votes remain to be counted. We think Mr. Jones leads in that vote by about 16.4 points.
Estimated margin, Jones +1.4 --- Chance of winning >95%
Doug Jones Democrat 629,755 49.5%
Roy Moore Republican 619,952 48.8
Total Write-Ins 21,792 1.7
96% reporting (2,134 of 2,220 precincts)
NOTE: Write-ins outnumber the vote spread by more than 2 : 1.