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Initech

(100,079 posts)
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 05:43 PM Dec 2017

Dave Daubenmire: Roy Moore Should Lie About Misconduct Allegations If It Advances The Kingdom Of God

On his “Pass The Salt Live” webcast this morning, Religious Right activist Dave Daubenmire said that Roy Moore has no obligation to tell the truth regarding multiple allegations that he pursued sexual relationships with teenage girls when he was in his 30s and that, in fact, it is better for him to lie about it if doing so will help to advance the kingdom of God.

Daubenmire, who has been an ardent Moore supporter for years and even interviewed Moore on his program back in 2013, likened Moore’s efforts to become a U.S. senator from Alabama to using misdirection in a football game, employing subterfuge during a military battle or hiding Jews from the Nazis, saying that deception and dishonesty in such endeavors is acceptable because doing so furthers a greater good.

“When I hear people say, ‘Well, Judge Moore is not worthy of the office if he’s lying about what he did,’ I want to grab ’em and I want to slap ’em upside the stinking head,” Daubenmire said. “Judge Moore is trying to infiltrate an ungodly system and the stakes in this campaign are so great for the cause of Christ and Judge Moore is being lambasted by the holier-than-thou Christians who think [the Bible] says we can never lie.”

“It’s best to lie if it advances the kingdom of God,” Daubenmire stated. “There, I said it.”
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/dave-daubenmire-roy-moore-should-lie-about-misconduct-allegations-if-it-advances-the-kingdom-of-god/


Hey FAKE COACH Dave... are you taking a page from the George Costanza playbook?

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Dave Daubenmire: Roy Moore Should Lie About Misconduct Allegations If It Advances The Kingdom Of God (Original Post) Initech Dec 2017 OP
I think lying is covered in the Ten Commandments Angry Dragon Dec 2017 #1
I believe it's calld "thou shalt not bear false witness". Initech Dec 2017 #5
I would advise Roy Moore that if he wishes to advance into the Kingdom of God that he admits his lie Pachamama Dec 2017 #2
So much for your precious 10 Commandments, right? haele Dec 2017 #3
They really do not believe in HELL ...........only Heaven for the righteous Angry Dragon Dec 2017 #6
Also... as Jesus said..."slap thine enemies upside the stinking head." Chiyo-chichi Dec 2017 #4
That's quite a kingdon their god maintains, marybourg Dec 2017 #7
Most amendments, commandments are just hindrances for ole' Roy. dubyadiprecession Dec 2017 #8
Fucking Moore-ons world wide wally Dec 2017 #9
hey dave....go fuck yourself....and tell God I told you to spanone Dec 2017 #10
I wish I knew my Bible better... MountCleaners Dec 2017 #11
If only there was a giant graven image Nevernose Dec 2017 #12
OK, here you go... MountCleaners Dec 2017 #13

haele

(12,659 posts)
3. So much for your precious 10 Commandments, right?
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 05:50 PM
Dec 2017

It's obviously far more important for you to get your way than to follow your own God's words...

I wonder what sort of psychotic bullies raised you that you think your creator will be A-Okay with your lies, cheating, stealing or murder as long as you end up on top and say you're doing it for Him - even though his rule book expressly indicates these are wrong and mortal sins that will send you to Hell.

Haele

marybourg

(12,631 posts)
7. That's quite a kingdon their god maintains,
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 06:02 PM
Dec 2017

that's enhanced by lying about molesting young girls. Sounds worse than hell, or the right wing's idea of Islam.

MountCleaners

(1,148 posts)
11. I wish I knew my Bible better...
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 06:35 PM
Dec 2017

besides the "bearing false witness" part. I am sure there is something in there that pertains to this type of lie. Certainly, there is stuff about pride, and so many of these fundies are guilty of THAT sin. For example, Isaiah 2:12:
"12 The LORD Almighty has a day in store for all the proud and lofty, for all that is exalted (and they will be humbled)". Also James 4:6 "God opposes the proud but shows favor to the humble."

Gonna have to go back to my own Bible studies to refute these people.

MountCleaners

(1,148 posts)
13. OK, here you go...
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 06:52 PM
Dec 2017

Exodus 23:1

“Do not spread false reports. Do not help a guilty person by being a malicious witness."

AND

James 1:26
" Those who consider themselves religious and yet do not keep a tight rein on their tongues deceive themselves, and their religion is worthless."

biblestudytools.com is a great source. It's sickening how so many of these RW religious folks don't know scripture.
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