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no_hypocrisy

(46,117 posts)
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 08:55 AM Dec 2017

Who is Al Franken?

From a friend's page with permission:

Not like the others?

“Another woman has come forward about Al Franken and this is a story you must read (below) I've been pretty quiet on this one but I feel like we have processes and procedures in Washington set by our founding Fathers and they are there for a reason. This current body of government is completely out of control. I believe the woman that did come forward but there are different degrees of misconduct and I wish they had let the ethics investigation happen and they had followed due process.

I have permission to share this story from my FB friend Sandra Levinson:

When my niece Francie was dying of colon cancer and about to celebrate her last birthday, i couldn't imagine what gift to send her. But I knew she adored Al Franken so I wrote to Al, whom I had never met, asking him if he would send her a flower, a card, anything, because he was her hero and her greatest hope was that she'd live long enough to see him elected.

Within the hour of receiving my note he answered saying he would be in Minneapolis that weekend and could visit her in the hospital Saturday or Sunday, which would be better? I told him that Saturday was her birthday and he said he'd be there about 4. I called my sister to tell her but of course warned her not to tell Francie. How could we be sure that a well known comic running to be senator would show up?

That Saturday In June I sat in my office in New York waiting, 4, 5, 6, almost 7 my sister called to say that Al had just left after nearly two hours w Francie. He'd brought all of his books (which she already owned), signed them with her (she insisted he sign one "to my greatest fan,&quot , schmoozed w her and when he left she announced to her mom that it was
The best birthday she'd ever had.

But that was not all. He called her every week after that to see how she was doing. She was home then. One night In September i came home to a phone message from a very excited Francie, "Tía! I went to a fundraiser for Al, it was a garden party and when he came in he walked all across the garden to ME, to hug me and ask me how I was doing!"

The next night Francie collapsed and was taken to hospice in a Minneapolis hospital, in a coma. I flew there to spend nights with my sister in Francie's room. Al and Franni Franken came to visit Francie, stood at the foot of her bed and wept. When she died later that month Al came to sit shiva with the family.

These are kindnesses one never forgets.

This is Al Franken.”

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Who is Al Franken? (Original Post) no_hypocrisy Dec 2017 OP
Thank you. I wish I could rec a thousand time. n/t Mister Ed Dec 2017 #1
Me too. That says so much about the man. OnDoutside Dec 2017 #2
I completely agree The country should know about this. Rene Dec 2017 #13
Rec Meowmee Dec 2017 #3
me too barbtries Dec 2017 #52
Yeah Meowmee Dec 2017 #93
And since most of us haven't heard about it until now, he wasn't doing it for publicity. LisaL Dec 2017 #4
Exactly pandr32 Dec 2017 #43
Thanks for sharing this. K & R Guilded Lilly Dec 2017 #5
K&R nolabear Dec 2017 #6
Thanks for revealing this confirmation of Al Franken's kind nature. oasis Dec 2017 #7
Yes, THIS is Al Franken.. thank you! mountain grammy Dec 2017 #8
So agree,this is the Al that I know. Wellstone ruled Dec 2017 #56
Breaking our hearts again... spooky3 Dec 2017 #9
K&R stonecutter357 Dec 2017 #10
K&R. He is a good person. demmiblue Dec 2017 #11
Very recently I read Franken's book, A Giant in the Senate. Nitram Dec 2017 #12
I hope Al Franken reads DU! rainy Dec 2017 #14
K&R. There are a lot of people on this board who should read this. rzemanfl Dec 2017 #15
I think there are a lot of Senators luvtheGWN Dec 2017 #16
Lookin' at YOU, Dianne Feinstein and Kamala Harris. calimary Dec 2017 #81
Yes indeed. nt cwydro Dec 2017 #17
Why? People are complicated. This is utterly unrelated to the accusations mythology Dec 2017 #20
Wow, you would take this moment to share that... LakeArenal Dec 2017 #24
And I Think You're Wrong ProfessorGAC Dec 2017 #47
But when that someone does good things like this, without publicity ms liberty Dec 2017 #62
Currently having trouble considering "he grabbed my waist..." as any sort of groping. calimary Dec 2017 #82
Yes, I agree... ms liberty Dec 2017 #88
Sorry that having such a family messed you up. Jakes Progress Dec 2017 #70
Do you interrupt Black Lives Matter events BlueWI Dec 2017 #84
K and R...thank you for posting this. Stuart G Dec 2017 #18
K&R Bettie Dec 2017 #19
k&r Little Star Dec 2017 #21
Admittedly, five minutes of banter does not tell you who a man is DFW Dec 2017 #22
OMG!! hurple Dec 2017 #36
It turned out OK DFW Dec 2017 #76
I'm not surprised. Denzil_DC Dec 2017 #23
I continue to stand with Al. LakeArenal Dec 2017 #25
I weep for the unnecessary loss lark Dec 2017 #26
Thank you. snacker Dec 2017 #27
Franken is a good guy who goes out all the way for PatrickforO Dec 2017 #28
This! Absolutely! smirkymonkey Dec 2017 #32
And they can call on Trump to resign day in and day out. LisaL Dec 2017 #83
K & R geardaddy Dec 2017 #29
K&R. dchill Dec 2017 #30
Al Franken is a mensch nt COLGATE4 Dec 2017 #31
Thank you pazzyanne Dec 2017 #33
+1000 You know Al would fight for CHIP for 9,000,000 kids WyLoochka Dec 2017 #90
Thank you seta1950 Dec 2017 #34
K&R. Paladin Dec 2017 #35
OMG! hurple Dec 2017 #37
K&R! UCmeNdc Dec 2017 #38
Franken 110liberal Dec 2017 #39
This is why so many Dems are now dead to me. ananda Dec 2017 #40
Thank you for this riverwalker Dec 2017 #41
I'm crying .... Please don't quit Al Botany Dec 2017 #42
Of course. Egnever Dec 2017 #44
k&r n/t orleans Dec 2017 #45
Beautiful.. whathehell Dec 2017 #46
He was railroaded and we won't forget flamingdem Dec 2017 #48
This is the real Al Franken eissa Dec 2017 #49
I QUESTION the accusations. . . Collimator Dec 2017 #79
"It's my right as an entertainer!" eissa Dec 2017 #80
snort does not easily cry snort Dec 2017 #50
thanks for sharing this renate Dec 2017 #51
Thank you! Alice11111 Dec 2017 #53
Was anyone able to read this without tearing up? Both for what he did and for what we Amaryllis Dec 2017 #54
Not me. dragonlady Dec 2017 #63
That is the Al Franken that I know. Thor_MN Dec 2017 #55
What a wonderful story PatSeg Dec 2017 #57
He is such a good man...I will never get over what some in our own party did to him... Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #58
K & R SunSeeker Dec 2017 #59
K & R Lifelong Protester Dec 2017 #60
Wow what a great story workinclasszero Dec 2017 #61
this is who I thought he is KT2000 Dec 2017 #64
I'm in tears, thanks for the story yonder Dec 2017 #65
Odd. Some posters seem to be missing from this thread. mn9driver Dec 2017 #66
I hope you forwarded this to those Democrats that rushed to judgement over him. LiberalLovinLug Dec 2017 #67
And to Gov Dayton, who's in such a rush to replacement Franken BEFORE foral resignation stuffmatters Dec 2017 #71
dang it - I'm crying nadine_mn Dec 2017 #68
Trying to stifle the tears. Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #69
Sobbing my heart out. This is who he is-I truly believe that. BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2017 #72
This beautiful story! It shows us so clearly what we have thrown away. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2017 #73
Al Franken is a real mensch Hekate Dec 2017 #74
You can't hide this kind of kindness but you can manufacture slurs against it. grantcart Dec 2017 #75
sent this to my senators KT2000 Dec 2017 #77
If they ask for a reference: no_hypocrisy Dec 2017 #87
thank you KT2000 Dec 2017 #89
Let it be known we've lost someone on a level with Obama flamingdem Dec 2017 #78
Sure does suck. LisaL Dec 2017 #86
But anonymous but gropes... Drahthaardogs Dec 2017 #85
This doesn't surprise me a bit. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2017 #91
K&R MustLoveBeagles Dec 2017 #92
Al Franken is a man who is smiling with the rest of us tonight. nt C Moon Dec 2017 #94
I didn't know my heart could break twice. colorado_ufo Dec 2017 #95

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
93. Yeah
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 01:28 AM
Dec 2017

Disgusting really. This is not something I’ll ever get over or forgive. On so many levels. What they did was disloyal and cowardly.

pandr32

(11,586 posts)
43. Exactly
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 12:17 PM
Dec 2017

It is his humanity he shared with this person and her family. He is the kind of person we need in Congress and high office--not a kick to the curb.

Nitram

(22,811 posts)
12. Very recently I read Franken's book, A Giant in the Senate.
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 09:29 AM
Dec 2017

I came away with a very strong sense of who he is - exactly the person you describe in your anecdote. I am very sad that he has not been given the benefit of the doubt after apologizing and volunteering for an ethics investigation. I thought he chose an exemplary way to handle the situation, and should have been allowed to remain in office at least until an ethics investigation could be completed.

calimary

(81,304 posts)
81. Lookin' at YOU, Dianne Feinstein and Kamala Harris.
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 07:36 PM
Dec 2017

But ESPECIALLY Gillibrand. Gillibrand and Schumer, too.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
20. Why? People are complicated. This is utterly unrelated to the accusations
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 10:03 AM
Dec 2017

My biological dad does legitimately good work with kids with HIV and AIDS. Yet he verbally and emotionally abuses his family. Just because somebody does good things doesn't mean they can't do bad as well. We aren't cartoon characters either all good or all bad.

LakeArenal

(28,819 posts)
24. Wow, you would take this moment to share that...
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 10:28 AM
Dec 2017

There have been so many threads to share that tidbit. Just wow..


ProfessorGAC

(65,060 posts)
47. And I Think You're Wrong
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 12:51 PM
Dec 2017

Roy Moore isn't someone i would suspect would make the follow up calls and revisit and help the family grieve unless there was something in it for him.

"It" would probably not do it at all.

The sociopathy includes their abuse and harassment.

This is what's called a pattern.

You gave one example, but behavioral patterns are real things.

You haven't refuted one thing anybody else here has said with a single data point, apropos of little.

ms liberty

(8,579 posts)
62. But when that someone does good things like this, without publicity
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 02:47 PM
Dec 2017

And then after he is slandered by a few women as a guy who gropes women in public but all of the women who've worked for him for years sign letters of support and share stories of his treating them in private with respect and equality, well that's how you can tell the groper stories are bullshit.

calimary

(81,304 posts)
82. Currently having trouble considering "he grabbed my waist..." as any sort of groping.
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 07:38 PM
Dec 2017

AND beyond that, I CANNOT ignore that Roger "the Ratfucker" Stone was involved, along with a former Playboy bunny now CONservative talker working at a low-rated hate radio AM station here in L.A.

ms liberty

(8,579 posts)
88. Yes, I agree...
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 09:28 PM
Dec 2017

This whole business with Al Franken stinks like dirty tricks, the media's coverage has been abysmal, and our democrats and independents in Congress have left me frustrated and angry with their handling of the situation.

Jakes Progress

(11,122 posts)
70. Sorry that having such a family messed you up.
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 04:28 PM
Dec 2017

But that disqualifies you for recognizing good people vs. bad people.

BlueWI

(1,736 posts)
84. Do you interrupt Black Lives Matter events
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 07:43 PM
Dec 2017

with a chant of all lives matter? Wouldn't surprise me if you do.

Bettie

(16,110 posts)
19. K&R
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 10:01 AM
Dec 2017

A kind and decent man who is willing to fight for what is right.

And we're probably trading him in the Senate for Roy Fucking Moore.

DFW

(54,403 posts)
22. Admittedly, five minutes of banter does not tell you who a man is
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 10:12 AM
Dec 2017

But MY five minutes gave me the impression that this story is typical and very indicative of who Al Franken is. It will stay my impression of who he is until I see concrete unbiased evidence to the contrary.
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hurple

(1,306 posts)
36. OMG!!
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 11:14 AM
Dec 2017

Is he grabbing your butt in that pic? It so looks like he's grabbing your butt. You need to run tell the press. It looks like he's being totally inappropriate! What a monster...

</sarcasm>

DFW

(54,403 posts)
76. It turned out OK
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 06:02 PM
Dec 2017

I bit off his hand when he tried. If you look closely, he has been wearing a prosthesis ever since.

Denzil_DC

(7,242 posts)
23. I'm not surprised.
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 10:18 AM
Dec 2017

But I'm impressed with the commitment of time and emotional involvement.

It would be a very mean-spirited person who'd play whataboutery and gripe after reading an account like this.

PatrickforO

(14,576 posts)
28. Franken is a good guy who goes out all the way for
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 10:41 AM
Dec 2017

his constituents.

I've seen story after story after story of how he truly cares about people.

I guess the party figured that this made him an excellent sacrificial lamb. So they sacrificed him, his kindness, his caring and silenced his voice.

For what? So they can call on Trump to resign based on his harassment of women?

They couldn't have just gathered 'round Franken in support, sent a big 'fuck you' to the right wing for trying to smear him and STILL called on Trump to resign?

Was the railroading of Franken without due process really worth it politically?

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
32. This! Absolutely!
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 11:06 AM
Dec 2017

I honestly believe that Senator Franken is a good, decent man who works hard for the people of this country and not for his own self-interest. This whole fiasco has just been a rotten shame.

pazzyanne

(6,556 posts)
33. Thank you
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 11:08 AM
Dec 2017

for reinforcing what I already knew about Al Franken. My heart weeps for what we are about to lose in the US Senate. I just sent him an e-mail this morning asking him to fight to reinstate the CHIP program for the 9,000,000 children who will be without health insurance after December 31st because our congress has let it expire. I am hoping that he will continue to fight for us until his last day in the senate. We need him so badly in our fight against the evil this country is now facing.

hurple

(1,306 posts)
37. OMG!
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 11:19 AM
Dec 2017

Right there in your story, yet more proof of what a perverted deviant monster this man is... He *hugged* her in public without getting written consent signed in triplicate and notarized, then filed with the Gillibrand Agency and awaiting approval from the appropriate-physical-contact-overlord?

I bet he even *squeezed* her waist...

HOW DARE HE!!!

</sarcasm>

110liberal

(21 posts)
39. Franken
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 11:31 AM
Dec 2017

We truly are loosing a giant in the Senate to a smear campaign. Thank you Kirsten for showing the nation what you are like.

ananda

(28,865 posts)
40. This is why so many Dems are now dead to me.
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 11:48 AM
Dec 2017

It was clear to me all along that Franken was such a good
guy with a big heart! And strong when he needed to be ::
against Reeps!

riverwalker

(8,694 posts)
41. Thank you for this
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 12:06 PM
Dec 2017

I’ve been looking at photos of his USO tours, such sheer joy on his face and the troops. He loved making them laugh. I absolutely hate Tweeden for turning his USO devotion into something ugly and sordid.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
42. I'm crying .... Please don't quit Al
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 12:11 PM
Dec 2017

"The next night Francie collapsed and was taken to hospice in a Minneapolis hospital, in a coma.
I flew there to spend nights with my sister in Francie's room. Al and Franni Franken came to visit
Francie, stood at the foot of her bed and wept. When she died later that month Al came to sit
shiva with the family."


 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
44. Of course.
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 12:30 PM
Dec 2017

The guy has a track record of being a caring individual. So glad we threw him out to make a point with no consideration whatsoever of his character.

eissa

(4,238 posts)
49. This is the real Al Franken
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 01:11 PM
Dec 2017

not the guy people like Gillibrand and Leeden are trying to lump in with the Roy Moore crowd. I DON'T BELIEVE THE ACCUSATIONS. Franken was railroaded, period.

Collimator

(1,639 posts)
79. I QUESTION the accusations. . .
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 06:23 PM
Dec 2017

Both in regards to the motivation behind bringing them forth at this time and the details regarding the degree of contact and the resulting emotional impact that has been claimed.

This is why an investigation was/is absolutely warranted.

What I do NOT question is Senator Franken's ability to listen with respect, validate the feelings of others with empathy and respond with a committment to learn from these experiences and modify his behavior going forward.

eissa

(4,238 posts)
80. "It's my right as an entertainer!"
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 07:05 PM
Dec 2017

I cannot, for even a nanosecond, take this allegation seriously. It not only sounds like an obvious play of "when you're a star you can do anything," it sounds completely uncharacteristic of Franken.

Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
58. He is such a good man...I will never get over what some in our own party did to him...
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 02:06 PM
Dec 2017

I won't vote for them in a primary.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
61. Wow what a great story
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 02:38 PM
Dec 2017

I still can't believe this man was railroaded out of the Senate like a convicted criminal without a hearing and unable to face his accusers.

It's a damn travesty of "justice"!

KT2000

(20,581 posts)
64. this is who I thought he is
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 02:58 PM
Dec 2017

all along. He is a giver, not a taker. I wish this story could go to everyone who participated in this crime.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
72. Sobbing my heart out. This is who he is-I truly believe that.
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 05:13 PM
Dec 2017

A Good Man (a mensch), like President Obama.

Makes what was done to him even more upsetting.

I pray for a life partner like him, someday.


💔😭💞

KT2000

(20,581 posts)
77. sent this to my senators
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 06:07 PM
Dec 2017

Patty Murray and Maria Cantwell
That they were a part of this just makes me sick. They are so inside their bubble, they have forgotten why they have their jobs in the first place.

no_hypocrisy

(46,117 posts)
87. If they ask for a reference:
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 09:26 PM
Dec 2017

The author was the aunt of the unfortunate woman. Her name is Sandra Levinson, Executive Director at Center for Cuban Studies.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
78. Let it be known we've lost someone on a level with Obama
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 06:10 PM
Dec 2017

We've lost so much potential in losing Al Franken.

It sucks

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,731 posts)
91. This doesn't surprise me a bit.
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 10:56 PM
Dec 2017

I met Al Franken in 2002, just after Paul Wellstone was killed. He came to a DFL phone bank where a bunch of us were calling for Walter Mondale, who took Wellstone's place on the ballot. And he was so involved and sincere and encouraging. He's the real deal. I just can't believe what those short-sided knuckleheads have done - not just to him, but to us.

MustLoveBeagles

(11,611 posts)
92. K&R
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 12:35 AM
Dec 2017


That say's it all. I hate what happened to him. I always knew he was good guy. Thank you for posting this.

colorado_ufo

(5,734 posts)
95. I didn't know my heart could break twice.
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 03:12 AM
Dec 2017

But I believe in miracles come and I hope we have one with Senator Franken returning.

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