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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf one of these women from the Senate would run for President in 2020, who'd have your primary vote?
We have 16 women Democrats in the Senate- obviously I couldn't fit them all on the list. Unlike some other parties I could talk about....
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The one I didn't list (please respond in the thread) | |
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Kamala Harris | |
4 (15%) |
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Tammy Duckworth | |
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Elizabeth Warren | |
7 (27%) |
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Amy Klobuchar | |
13 (50%) |
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Catherine Cortez Masto | |
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Jeanne Shaheen | |
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Maggie Hassan | |
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Claire McCaskill | |
1 (4%) |
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Tammy Baldwin | |
1 (4%) |
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4now
(1,596 posts)It is much too soon to start arguing about primary candidates.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,861 posts)At least Kamala Harris would still be under 60. Everyone else will be much older than that.
I also think that some three years before the next Presidential election we shouldn't be worried about this. Let's get past the mid terms first.
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,790 posts)e.t.a. Gillibrand (in case you were wondering) is 51
Kamala Harris is 53
Cortez-Masto is 53
Baldwin is 55
Klobuchar is 57, so she would be just over 60 in 2020
Hassan is 59, so she'd be over 60 in 2020
McCaskill is 64
Warren is 68
Shaheen is 70
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,861 posts)and I do not want to see anyone over the age of 60 running for President in 2020. Which would for me eliminate all but Gillibrand (who'd tainted by her involvement in making Franken resign so I won't be voting for her) Cortez-Masto and Baldwin will be young enough. You and everyone else may disagree.
I also think it's totally stupid to be focussing at this point, some three years before the next Presidential election, on who our candidate will be. Especially as the 2018 mid term ought to be the only thing we are now paying attention to.
But every single election year cycle it's the same thing. Twenty minutes after the results are in, people here start promoting or quizzing as to who the next candidate should be.
I really, really wish people would instead look to the next election instead.
And maybe run for office themselves.
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,790 posts)...and it's hardly focusing. It's just wondering what everyone else thinks a year and a month out. But (assuming we continue to have free elections) the 2020 election essentially begins in a year, whether or not one likes that fact,
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)She has the lowest national profile of any. Have no idea what she's like as a stump speaker or on television.
Seems good on the issues, but it's weird that her big national issue would be restricting web streaming.
The question her supporters need to answer is this: what is it about her that would outweigh the fact that we'd have to work harder to establish her as a national political presence than any of the others in the poll?
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,790 posts)1) She's very popular in her home state
2) She's from the Upper Midwest - a place where the Trump campaign successfully penetrated "the blue wall"
3) She's a former prosecutor - that might be handy in facing this President
I disagree that she has the lowest national profile on my list, but that's subjective .. so
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,861 posts)I don't see her mentioned except here.
The main reason I'm aware of her is that I used to live in Minnesota and so I tend to pay attention to the politics of that state.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)I asked what I asked simply because I don't know as much about her as some of the others.
Sen. Walter Sobchak
(8,692 posts)But most of the contenders who have national profiles aren't going to be nationally competitive. An inoffensive Midwesterner is our best hope.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)She is good & warm on television.
irisblue
(32,975 posts)Too red for me. Smart though, moving Todd Akin out is a happy memory of 2012.
leftstreet
(36,108 posts)I'm sure all the female Senators you've listed would be just fine as Presidents.
But they'll never beat Trump in 2020
It has to be a young relatively unknown male with charisma and an authoritative truth-to-power presence. Bank on it
A governor, or maybe even a new house rep
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)Our bench is terrible right now due to weakness in the governorships recently.
If we nominate a female in 2020 she will lose the electoral vote and popular vote. People here are underestimating how much benefit of a doubt Trump will receive. Incumbents whose party has been in power only one term simply do not lose.
To defeat an incumbent like that you need a charismatic ideal nominee.
susanna
(5,231 posts)We left "normal" a year or so back.
Rethink your baselines.
Just saying.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)very well, with a good strategy that includes heavy campaigning in the states that Trump won, would probably work. The voters are hating Trump now and that number is growing daily as his sanity is questioned. Maybe some folks didn't know it then but they know it now.
murielm99
(30,741 posts)LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)And especially if/WHEN Mall Rat Moore wins a Senate seat
SFnomad
(3,473 posts)Algernon Moncrieff
(5,790 posts)And the 2020 cycle begins in less than one year
SFnomad
(3,473 posts)Algernon Moncrieff
(5,790 posts)It's the new reality, no matter how you punctuate.
SFnomad
(3,473 posts)We talk about how there is too much money in politics and then we have people like you pushing to extend the political season to ridiculous extremes. It wasn't that long ago that the presidential political season was 6-9 months. Then states started one up'ing each other to be earlier in the primary season to have "influence", which pushed it to a year. Last season, it pushed to about 18-24 months, which in itself is ludicrous.
And now you seem to think 36 months is the new normal. Well, if you want money out of politics, you need to push back from it, rather than be an instigator of it.
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)Assuming our votes COUNT in 2018.
DFW
(54,397 posts)It depends, just like last time, which men are running.
My preference for a presidential candidate is not gender-specific.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)n/t
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,790 posts)Iggo
(47,558 posts)PragmaticLiberal
(904 posts)murielm99
(30,741 posts)and she is my Senator. But we don't know how she feels about things, and how she will feel by 2020. Her health is always a factor, and we need her quite badly in the Senate.
A lot can happen before 2020.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)I love her background and greatly admire her sacrifice in the service. But do we want to a fight on our hands on the issue that she was not born in the U.S.?
brooklynite
(94,585 posts)...until I think about the Presidential Election, which I won't do until after the Mid-Term election.
unblock
(52,243 posts)not that i have anyone in mind, but in terms of general strategy, i'd rather see a governor run.
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,790 posts)My first choice is Tammy Duckworth
My second choice is Jimmy Kimmel ( no - I'm not kidding)
Bettie
(16,110 posts)There are a lot of talented, smart people out there, the senate isn't the only place to draw from.