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Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 12:10 AM Dec 2017

If one of these women from the Senate would run for President in 2020, who'd have your primary vote?

We have 16 women Democrats in the Senate- obviously I couldn't fit them all on the list. Unlike some other parties I could talk about....


26 votes, 3 passes | Time left: Unlimited
The one I didn't list (please respond in the thread)
0 (0%)
Kamala Harris
4 (15%)
Tammy Duckworth
0 (0%)
Elizabeth Warren
7 (27%)
Amy Klobuchar
13 (50%)
Catherine Cortez Masto
0 (0%)
Jeanne Shaheen
0 (0%)
Maggie Hassan
0 (0%)
Claire McCaskill
1 (4%)
Tammy Baldwin
1 (4%)
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If one of these women from the Senate would run for President in 2020, who'd have your primary vote? (Original Post) Algernon Moncrieff Dec 2017 OP
They all sound good to me 4now Dec 2017 #1
Most of them are too old. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2017 #2
Duckworth is 49 Algernon Moncrieff Dec 2017 #4
I'm a Baby Boomer myself, PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2017 #6
Actually, I'm hoping Tammy Duckworth will run, and she's the youngest of the bunch. Algernon Moncrieff Dec 2017 #8
What would the case for Klobuchar be? Ken Burch Dec 2017 #3
Off the top of my head Algernon Moncrieff Dec 2017 #5
I think she does have a very low national profile. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2017 #7
Thanks for the info. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #12
I'm not really a fan... Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2017 #10
She was in the CNN debate JonLP24 Dec 2017 #11
No flippin way on Sen Mc Caskill irisblue Dec 2017 #9
No senators. No women leftstreet Dec 2017 #13
I agree with you Awsi Dooger Dec 2017 #15
Oddly, to me, all of these posts seem to assume "normal" politics. susanna Dec 2017 #17
HRC won the popular vote. That suggests to me that the right female candidate could CTyankee Dec 2017 #31
It is too early to begin speculating about 2020. murielm99 Dec 2017 #14
It is too early to begin speculating about 2020. LenaBaby61 Dec 2017 #26
omg, seriously ... we haven't even started the 2018 mid-terms season yet. Way. Too. Early. n/t SFnomad Dec 2017 #16
Never too early Algernon Moncrieff Dec 2017 #19
No. It. Does. Not. n/t SFnomad Dec 2017 #23
Sorry. It does Algernon Moncrieff Dec 2017 #24
No. It. Does. Not. It's only the "new reality" if you allow it. SFnomad Dec 2017 #35
We haven't even started the 2018 mid-terms season yet. Way. Too. Early. LenaBaby61 Dec 2017 #27
Incomplete question DFW Dec 2017 #18
I don't want to vote based on gender flamingdem Dec 2017 #20
You apparently missed the word "if" in the OP Algernon Moncrieff Dec 2017 #21
The most progressive one of the bunch always gets my primary vote and always will. Iggo Dec 2017 #22
I voted for Harris but it's a tie between her and Duckworth. PragmaticLiberal Dec 2017 #25
I like Tammy Duckworth murielm99 Dec 2017 #29
Duckworth was born in Thailand. CTyankee Dec 2017 #32
None of them..... brooklynite Dec 2017 #28
not sure, but i'm not thrilled with losing good senators to presidential ambitions. unblock Dec 2017 #30
!!! Alice11111 Dec 2017 #33
It's hypothetical Algernon Moncrieff Dec 2017 #34
I don't think our candidate has to be a sitting senator Bettie Dec 2017 #36

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,861 posts)
2. Most of them are too old.
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 12:50 AM
Dec 2017

At least Kamala Harris would still be under 60. Everyone else will be much older than that.

I also think that some three years before the next Presidential election we shouldn't be worried about this. Let's get past the mid terms first.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
4. Duckworth is 49
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 01:45 AM
Dec 2017

e.t.a. Gillibrand (in case you were wondering) is 51
Kamala Harris is 53
Cortez-Masto is 53
Baldwin is 55

Klobuchar is 57, so she would be just over 60 in 2020
Hassan is 59, so she'd be over 60 in 2020

McCaskill is 64
Warren is 68
Shaheen is 70

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,861 posts)
6. I'm a Baby Boomer myself,
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 02:06 AM
Dec 2017

and I do not want to see anyone over the age of 60 running for President in 2020. Which would for me eliminate all but Gillibrand (who'd tainted by her involvement in making Franken resign so I won't be voting for her) Cortez-Masto and Baldwin will be young enough. You and everyone else may disagree.

I also think it's totally stupid to be focussing at this point, some three years before the next Presidential election, on who our candidate will be. Especially as the 2018 mid term ought to be the only thing we are now paying attention to.

But every single election year cycle it's the same thing. Twenty minutes after the results are in, people here start promoting or quizzing as to who the next candidate should be.

I really, really wish people would instead look to the next election instead.

And maybe run for office themselves.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
8. Actually, I'm hoping Tammy Duckworth will run, and she's the youngest of the bunch.
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 02:09 AM
Dec 2017

...and it's hardly focusing. It's just wondering what everyone else thinks a year and a month out. But (assuming we continue to have free elections) the 2020 election essentially begins in a year, whether or not one likes that fact,

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
3. What would the case for Klobuchar be?
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 12:51 AM
Dec 2017

She has the lowest national profile of any. Have no idea what she's like as a stump speaker or on television.

Seems good on the issues, but it's weird that her big national issue would be restricting web streaming.

The question her supporters need to answer is this: what is it about her that would outweigh the fact that we'd have to work harder to establish her as a national political presence than any of the others in the poll?

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
5. Off the top of my head
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 01:56 AM
Dec 2017

1) She's very popular in her home state
2) She's from the Upper Midwest - a place where the Trump campaign successfully penetrated "the blue wall"
3) She's a former prosecutor - that might be handy in facing this President

I disagree that she has the lowest national profile on my list, but that's subjective .. so

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,861 posts)
7. I think she does have a very low national profile.
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 02:07 AM
Dec 2017

I don't see her mentioned except here.

The main reason I'm aware of her is that I used to live in Minnesota and so I tend to pay attention to the politics of that state.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
12. Thanks for the info.
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 02:33 AM
Dec 2017

I asked what I asked simply because I don't know as much about her as some of the others.

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
10. I'm not really a fan...
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 02:29 AM
Dec 2017

But most of the contenders who have national profiles aren't going to be nationally competitive. An inoffensive Midwesterner is our best hope.

irisblue

(32,975 posts)
9. No flippin way on Sen Mc Caskill
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 02:14 AM
Dec 2017

Too red for me. Smart though, moving Todd Akin out is a happy memory of 2012.

leftstreet

(36,108 posts)
13. No senators. No women
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 03:07 AM
Dec 2017

I'm sure all the female Senators you've listed would be just fine as Presidents.

But they'll never beat Trump in 2020

It has to be a young relatively unknown male with charisma and an authoritative truth-to-power presence. Bank on it

A governor, or maybe even a new house rep

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
15. I agree with you
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 04:03 AM
Dec 2017

Our bench is terrible right now due to weakness in the governorships recently.

If we nominate a female in 2020 she will lose the electoral vote and popular vote. People here are underestimating how much benefit of a doubt Trump will receive. Incumbents whose party has been in power only one term simply do not lose.

To defeat an incumbent like that you need a charismatic ideal nominee.

susanna

(5,231 posts)
17. Oddly, to me, all of these posts seem to assume "normal" politics.
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 04:27 AM
Dec 2017

We left "normal" a year or so back.

Rethink your baselines.

Just saying.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
31. HRC won the popular vote. That suggests to me that the right female candidate could
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 04:31 PM
Dec 2017

very well, with a good strategy that includes heavy campaigning in the states that Trump won, would probably work. The voters are hating Trump now and that number is growing daily as his sanity is questioned. Maybe some folks didn't know it then but they know it now.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
26. It is too early to begin speculating about 2020.
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 03:54 PM
Dec 2017
THIS ^^^

And especially if/WHEN Mall Rat Moore wins a Senate seat
 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
35. No. It. Does. Not. It's only the "new reality" if you allow it.
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 10:43 PM
Dec 2017

We talk about how there is too much money in politics and then we have people like you pushing to extend the political season to ridiculous extremes. It wasn't that long ago that the presidential political season was 6-9 months. Then states started one up'ing each other to be earlier in the primary season to have "influence", which pushed it to a year. Last season, it pushed to about 18-24 months, which in itself is ludicrous.

And now you seem to think 36 months is the new normal. Well, if you want money out of politics, you need to push back from it, rather than be an instigator of it.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
27. We haven't even started the 2018 mid-terms season yet. Way. Too. Early.
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 03:55 PM
Dec 2017

Assuming our votes COUNT in 2018.

DFW

(54,397 posts)
18. Incomplete question
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 05:03 AM
Dec 2017

It depends, just like last time, which men are running.

My preference for a presidential candidate is not gender-specific.

murielm99

(30,741 posts)
29. I like Tammy Duckworth
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 04:09 PM
Dec 2017

and she is my Senator. But we don't know how she feels about things, and how she will feel by 2020. Her health is always a factor, and we need her quite badly in the Senate.

A lot can happen before 2020.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
32. Duckworth was born in Thailand.
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 04:35 PM
Dec 2017

I love her background and greatly admire her sacrifice in the service. But do we want to a fight on our hands on the issue that she was not born in the U.S.?

brooklynite

(94,585 posts)
28. None of them.....
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 03:55 PM
Dec 2017

...until I think about the Presidential Election, which I won't do until after the Mid-Term election.

unblock

(52,243 posts)
30. not sure, but i'm not thrilled with losing good senators to presidential ambitions.
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 04:12 PM
Dec 2017

not that i have anyone in mind, but in terms of general strategy, i'd rather see a governor run.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
34. It's hypothetical
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 09:46 PM
Dec 2017

My first choice is Tammy Duckworth

My second choice is Jimmy Kimmel ( no - I'm not kidding)

Bettie

(16,110 posts)
36. I don't think our candidate has to be a sitting senator
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 10:55 PM
Dec 2017

There are a lot of talented, smart people out there, the senate isn't the only place to draw from.

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