Forty years ago in Alabama, there's a lot a mamas and daddies that would be thrilled

[Rustynaerduwell]

that their 14 year old was getting hit on by a District Attorney" That's from an Alabama voter who's just thrilled to support that District Attorney.

[Irish_Dem]

1. This may be part of why men in power get away with abuse.

Initially women or children and their families are flattered by the attention from a powerful or wealthy man?

[delisen]

7. but even in Alabama they still expect marriage not just a hit.

[Irish_Dem]

10. So the parents think that the older powerful male is going to marry their

young teen?

I am trying to understand the dynamics.

[delisen]

15. I think one of his accusers said her mother told her she

would be a lucky girl if Roy Moore was interested in her. (He was, after all the district attorney, a graduate of West Point).

I don't think her mother meant that she would be happy if her daughter had a sexual relationship with Moore, rather the mother would be accepting of courtship and marriage.

I think Moore tried to put his behavior in that light when he said he would always ask the mother's permission-that would signal courtship and his intentions would be considered honorable (meaning leading to marriage).

However we know from the women who have come forward that he'd did not approach the parents, and he was not suggesting a relationship leading to marriage.

[Irish_Dem]

17. So he used his power and position, led mothers to believe he was honorable, seeking possible

marriage. This was a lie, part of the con?

[delisen]

18. I think it was excuse to the public after the women came forward

He was conning us-the general public in the US and counting on us to think that Alabama in the 1980s was so extremely backward that men first established themselves financially and then went-a-courting to find a young bride- as was done in some circles in Victorian times.
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I haven't heard of any parent coming forward to say that Roy Moore approached them and asked for permission to date their teen aged daughter and that they denied or gave him permission.

I think Roy is a student of history and he was trying to get us to excuse his behavior by placing it in a false historical context,
to blur the truth that he was aggressively pursuing teen aged girls in the 1980s for sex not marriage and hiding his intentions from the parents.

False narrative and a bunch of enablers backing him up.

When I put that together with his shady charity that did not disclose huge payments to him, I think he is another conman-like the Oval Office occupant-who know exactly what he is doing and is making a fortune doing it.

[Irish_Dem]

20. Gee, re-writing history in terms favorable to himself. Sounds familiar.

[delisen]

22. Birds of a feather.....

[JustAnotherGen]

2. They are justifying their vote

My dad was a Bama man and very very VERY protective - even though I grew up in Western NY. Add in his background as a Green Beret - I was born in 73. He was born Iin 41 - so of that 'era' of parents okay?

If a 30 year old man had molested me at 14 I know my father would have:

Hunted him down on Friday
Shot him on Saturday
And laughed about it and said "hell yeah I did it" on Sunday at Mt. Olivet Baptist Church.

That person is a liar.

A god damned liar!

[SummerSnow]

14. K&R...your dad sounds like a great man! He would have done what my daddy would've done too

[DetlefK]

3. Would that voter be thrilled if Moore hit on their 14yo grand-daughter?

- "70yo Senator Roy Moore wants to date, kiss and fondle our 14yo grand-daughter? That's fantastic news! A Senator! Grandma, did you hear that? A Senator wants to grope our precious Daisy!"
- "Why, that's awefully nice of him."

[HAB911]

8. He's just glad they aren't related

[Raster]

4. El toro poopoo. It's called justification for backing a child molester...

...oh wait, it is Alabama, after all.

[Calculating]

5. Alabama is truly a different cultural mindset than what most people are used to

It's almost like going to some middle eastern country like Afghanistan or something. They would see it as a great honor that their teen daughter was being courted by the village elder.

[get the red out]

11. Not sure

Alabama must be even worse than the mountains of Kentucky since I was a teenager there 40 years ago and some guy in his 30's going after young girls would have not been seen as normal or good! I asked my Mom about this the other night and she said she would have killed an older man if he went after me or my sister like that (she may have exaggerated a little, but made her point).

[Mariana]

12. He didn't "court" them.

He wasn't meeting girls at church and getting to know them them under their families' supervision, going to the house for Sunday dinner and such. No. He was lurking around the mall, hitting on the girls who worked there. Why did he do that? Because their parents weren't there and wouldn't know what he was up to.

[DetlefK]

6. "If you're famous, they let you do it." - President Donald Trump

[Initech]

9. Not from me, he'd be getting my boot in his ass!

[yallerdawg]

13. They need to get their "facts" straight about "back then."

The legal age of consent in Alabama, then and now, is 16. Under Alabama law in 1979, and today, a person who is at least 19 years old who has sexual contact with someone between 12 and 16 years old has committed sexual abuse in the second degree. Sexual contact is defined as touching of sexual or intimate parts. The crime is a misdemeanor punishable by up to one year in jail.

The law then and now also includes a section on enticing a child younger than 16 to enter a home with the purpose of proposing sexual intercourse or fondling of sexual and genital parts. That is a felony punishable by up to 10 years in prison.

In Alabama, the statute of limitations for bringing felony charges involving sexual abuse of a minor in 1979 would have run out three years later, and the time frame for filing a civil complaint would have ended when the alleged victim turned 21, according to Child USA, a nonprofit research and advocacy group at the University of Pennsylvania.

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/11/roy_moore_accused_of_sexual_mi.html

[treestar]

19. Great Research

That proves him a fraud. I wonder if any pundit will bring that up.

[Wounded Bear]

16. Typical rationalization...

Gimme that Old Time Religion...

[Ilsa]

21. My parents would never have allowed that

in the 1970s. I know because I grew up with fundamentalists in the 1970s.