Tina Dupuy mocks fan at Sexy Liberal meet and great

[tenderfoot]

Link to tweet

How humiliating for them, they were just a fan.

[JI7]

1. She is a shitty person

[oasis]

69. She's full of shit, that's for certain. nt

[cilla4progress]

2. Fuck her

I hate stuff like this.

People should be authentic and humble; not cynical assholes.

[LenaBaby61]

3. If this account IS true ...

Tina Dupuy's a bigger SLUG than I thought she was.

[dhol82]

4. Can someone explain the sexual harassment here?

I may be old but I don’t get it.

[LisaL]

9. She claimed that during a photo op, Franken put his hand around her waist and squeezed it twice.

That's her story and she calls that groping.

[dhol82]

16. Well, she is an idiot.

And, for that, Franken had to leave the senate.
Thank you Kirsten Gillibrand.

[Kirk Lover]

5. Wait a minute....she has 'fans'???????????????

[LisaL]

6. She is described by wikipedia as an op-ed columnist, freelance journalist and a comedian.

Now, I have never heard of her until she claimed Franken groped her waist, but I guess she is some sort of minor celebrity.

[JI7]

7. Hoping for bigger and better things with her accusstions against Franken

[oasis]

62. "hoping for bigger and better things". That would also describe the

actions of a few politicians regarding this issue.

[mountain grammy]

52. Yes. Embarrassed to admit I was one.

[ProudLib72]

8. I want to know the context of the mocking

Like, were they mocking him because he's a man?

I'm calling right now: Franken's resignation = beginning of the end of MeToo. The turning on Tina Dupuy has begun. Not happy about it, just saying the movement cannot withstand over politicization.

[brush]

10. Right. Depug is a phony. Waist groping is such a BS allegation it boggles the mind...

endangers the credibility of #me_too.

And of course Gillebrand's who was gullible enough to fall for it and begin her railroading of Franken.

Depuy seems to be trying to parlay her 15 minutes into bigger and better things.

[ProudLib72]

12. Quite a huge disservice to the other women!

Fame went to her head? Looking for book deals?

Plus, as MeToo's credibility suffers, Gillibrand's will too. Could come back next year to take a big bite out of her butt!

[LisaL]

13. That's not what she (Tina) thinks.

In her interview on CNN, she claimed it would be very hard for Franken's accusers if they had to testify at Ethics Hearing.

[brush]

14. Didn't want to testify yet she allows an interview before millions on national TV.

There's a word for that, no, two words: ambitious phony.

[dhol82]

17. Excellent name!

Could actually fit for a porn star.

[brush]

18. She was definitely ready for her close-up with the make-up and hair-do and all.

[tenderfoot]

49. It wasn't hard for her to go on CNN though

eom

[WyLoochka]

72. You bet. It is indeed hard for liars to testify under oath

That's exactly why they need to be compelled to give testimony under oath.

They could not testify under oath and say the same libelous, slanderous things they have been saying, at least truthfully.

Franken should at least sue them for slander so they would be deposed under oath - we just wouldn't have the satisfaction of seeing them squirm in public about their lies.

Tina is using as a cover what real victims of abuse find hard to do. They need to speak very graphically, that is difficult. It is very painful.

None of these women have anything that is painful to describe. Al Franken put his arm around me during a photo. That ruined your life? Get outta here..

[Baconator]

11. *googles Tina Dupay*

[Different Drummer]

15. I think I have been following her on Twitter for awhile.

I may have to see if I'm still following her and, if so, unfollow her.

[JI7]

19. She reminds me of that Troll mannygoldstein that was banned here

[fleabiscuit]

92. Some didnt like their purity questioned by manny. If memory serves. nt

[Tina Dupuy]

20. Hey now, that's untrue and unfair

I feel the need to address this because I do not, for one second, want the couple I was speaking to that night to think there is validity to this. Also there’s a somewhat funny story that is what actually happened that night:

John Fugelsang left me tickets to Sexy Liberals a couple of months ago. I took a woman I mentor from my Democratic Club, Liz, because she’d enjoy it. We went to the after party, got a drink from the bar and parked ourselves away from John and Stephanie’s respective receiving lines and near a bunch of gift bags.

A couple comes up to me and tells me that they love me. As a child abuse survivor this is always weirdly surprising to me. Also I don’t think I’m recognizable let alone notable. I know I’ve been writing for most of my adult life, but it just never occurs to me that people I’ve never met would have an opinion of me whatsoever. Anyway, the married couple were from Inwood and they were lovely. One works in the hotel industry so we gossiped about celebrities and the privileged patrons at work. I feel like we also covered food and wine. I’m a recent convert to alcohol; that probably came up in conversation too. They’d brought a nice buttery chardonnay for Stephanie. And of course, Liz, who I tell everyone I made in my garage with power tools because she makes me that proud, is always a charming conversationalist. Fun was had by all.

Then Stephanie Miller comes up to me with her backpack on and asks me to take all the wine people have brought for her. “I’m getting on the plane with just my backpack, I’m not taking anything back, you take it,” says Stephanie. She then made a lesbian three-way joke about Liz and left the building.

Then there was an awkward moment where we all kind of paused, realizing what had happened and the wife of the couple softly offers, “It’s a very buttery chardonnay.”

I felt bad. But it was also funny and very Stephanie. I asked if they wanted it back and they said no, they wanted me to enjoy it.

Again they were very sweet, smart and hardworking people. They left the party and I was left feeling mortified. I’m sure Liz and I laughed and made weird faces. On the scale of social goofs and funny story this one ranks low. But it’s now being made into something nefarious and cruel and that is untrue.

I don’t ever punch down. Ever. Not even in private. Never.

I came forward about Franken to lend credibility to the women who’d come forward and spare still others from the blistering media glare. I was part of a pattern, a pattern that seven other women had described nearly identically before I came forward. I’m sorry if this upsets you. It’s upsetting to everyone. But I don’t deserved to be lied about for the act of telling the truth.

You can disagree with my decisions. You can not care for my voice or my work. But you can’t say that I’m a shitty person because you half heard a conversation out of context one night at a loud bar. I mean, come on.

[Motownman78]

21. You came forward for media attention

You go on CNN in front of millions of people, yet are too afraid to testify at an ethics committee? Why don't you go ahead and sue Al Franken for the alleged sexual harassment? I doubt you would win as having your waist grabbed for a photo is NOT sexual harassment and actually harms those who have suffered actual sexual harassment.

You are another F-list celebrity like Tweeden just trying to boost your name recognition. A selfish person who has caused one of the strongest advocates for women's rights to be kicked out of the senate.

[OilemFirchen]

22. There'a a "scale of social goofs and funny story (sic)"?

Huh. Well ain't that a kick in the coccyx.

[MrsCoffee]

23. Cool story.

[dalton99a]

24. .

[orleans]

25. maybe stephanie miller should lose her job too?

making "a lesbian three-way joke" ?? after all, there was that "awkward moment" ...

"Then Stephanie Miller comes up to me with her backpack on and asks me to take all the wine people have brought for her. “I’m getting on the plane with just my backpack, I’m not taking anything back, you take it,” says Stephanie. She then made a lesbian three-way joke about Liz and left the building.

"Then there was an awkward moment where we all kind of paused, realizing what had happened and the wife of the couple softly offers, “It’s a very buttery chardonnay.”

"I felt bad. But it was also funny and very Stephanie. I asked if they wanted it back and they said no, they wanted me to enjoy it. "

UNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE!!!

[dsc]

26. I have an honest question for you, not about this

I watched your interview on CNN after Franken's speech. You stated in it that you were opposed to having ethics hearings since they would just tramatise the victims. So my question to you is this, after how many accusations do we get to summarily overturn elections? Is it one, two, three, four, I know it is eight or less but what is the exact number?

I live in a state, NC, that has one party which has repeatedly tried to, often with success, overturn election results that it doesn't like. They lost the Wake County school board and board of Commissioner's races so they redrew the lines. They didn't like the results of Asheville's elections so they redrew those lines. Greensboro, same thing. The lost a governor's race so they took powers away from the governor. They feared, correctly, losing a supreme court race so they tried to change how that election was run. I don't like it when they do it, and I don't like it when you do it. MN had an election. Franken won it, handedly. I had no problem with there being an ethics investigation and after that I might have supported expelling him from the Senate. But I don't think the will of over a million MN voters should have been summarily dismissed because of eight, as of yet, unproven, accusations.

[Kali]

27. Wow. Some serious lack of self-awareness in this first post.

Are you for real? Welcome to DU, I guess.

[Honeycombe8]

28. Putting hand on waist "lends credibility" to sex harassment claims?

That's ridiculous. The man lives in front of cameras, loves his fans, is a friendly guy who used to be an entertainer & is a politcal satirist, and yet there is not one picture among the tens of thousands of photos of him, with him groping anyone. Even YOUR picture doesn't show the hand on waist.

That such a claim lends any credibility to any wrongdoing is nonsensical. You reported this as a "me, too" incident. I saw you on tv talking about it in that way...before everyone laughed at the description of the so-called harassment.

When you ask someone to come in close for a selfie, they are probably going to touch you, and you them. Maybe not, but probably. If you have restrictions (other than the obvious sexual parts of your body), then you need to state that, when you ask them for the pic. I would have no problem with someone's hand on my waist (except for noticing my mid-section chunkiness). It's a natural place to put one's hand for a close pic..either that or the shoulders (which is very impersonal).

When my uncles would have pics of me and them taken, they frequently put their hands on my waist or somewhere thereabouts. It's a natural, normal thing to do.

But on tv you were saying, "I wouldn't even let my husband touch me THERE!" Ridiculous.

A man's career has been seriously damaged, if not ruined. And the Dems have lost a real champion for women's rights, foreign interference in our government, benefits for the disadvantaged, and such...for no good reason. While the same people who railroaded him haven't had the guts to call for the resignation of those who HAVE committed sexual or financial violations.

[LisaL]

31. And if photos with hands on waist proved groping, then there would be a lot of people out of jobs.

As it seems to be a perfectly acceptable way to pose for photos. At least until recently.

[Honeycombe8]

84. +1. nt

[R B Garr]

41. ++++Franken is the celebrity in those pictures and he probably just signals to

people it's okay to get close and that he is accessible to people. If you ask for a picture, it means you get close for the camera. This is just INSANE.

What an utter travesty that the #MeToo movement has been subverted by vain people such as this. No one probably cares or notices her fat roll.

[JimBeard]

74. I heard President was recently at an event and refused to do selfies........

Just curious why since he has in the past. Maybe it was a lack of time, who knows but I do know this witch hunt has changed a lot of behaviors.

[Honeycombe8]

85. I think so, too. I wouldn't take selfies, any more, if I were famous. Too risky. nt

[LisaL]

29. I am very confused by this story regarding the alleged mocking of fan.

This doesn't even sound like the same episode that was alleged in the OP.
What was the mocking in your story?

[GusBob]

34. Yeah I don't get it

Seems to me the point is to make Stephanie look bad?

[Vinnie From Indy]

30. "you cant say that Im a shitty person because you half heard a conversation out of context"

True that, but I can and do call you a shitty person for your part in the Al Franken affair.

You are an opportunist of the lowest order and I hope you get none of what you sought to gain by lying about Franken.

[GusBob]

32. "Untrue and unfair" listen to you

What a stupid choice of words

[demmiblue]

33. Go away. The damage you have done to the Democratic party and to the #MeToo movement...

is incalculable. You are not welcome here.

[SammyWinstonJack]

47. +1000000!

[mountain grammy]

51. Ill second that

And i used to be a fan. Trying to remember why .

[grantcart]

73. don't give her a hug before she goes.

[Tipperary]

35. Lmao!

[marble falls]

36. It will not get much fairer here, I'm afraid.

[blimablam]

37. I'm confused the "groping" that I heard you expound upon sounds exactly like a hug.

[tenderfoot]

38. you weren't abused - you're not a victim

Not even close.

“At one point Harvey asked me to take a walk down to the water, I walked down with him and he stopped and made some suggestive comment, a gesture, I just laughed it off, I was genuinely shocked,” she recalled on Twitter. “I remember thinking, it’s got to be a joke, I said something like.. ‘Oh come on mate?!?? It’d be like kissing my dad!! Let’s go get a drink, get back to the others.’ I was never in any other Miramax film.”

Another encounter with Weinstein took place years later in Los Angeles. The two met for what Headey thought would be a meeting to discuss potential work, she said, adding “I had always carried the thought that he’d never try anything with me again, not after I’d laughed and said never in a million years. I believed that he respected my boundary.”

“He asked me a few questions about the state of my love life,” she said. “I shifted the conversation back to something less personal. Then he went to the loo. He came back and said, ‘Let’s go up to the room, I want to give you a script.’ We walked to the lift and the energy shifted, my whole body went into high alert, the lift was going up and I said to Harvey, ‘I’m not interested in anything other than work, please don’t think I got in here with you for any other reason, nothing is going to happen.’ I don’t know what possessed me to speak out at that moment, only that I had such a strong sense of don’t come near me.”

After, she said Weinstein furiously marched her out of the hotel and told her not to tell anyone about their exchange. “I felt completely powerless,” she wrote, concluding, “I got into my car and I cried.”

http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/lena-headey-harvey-weinstein-sexual-harassment-1202592505/

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I have a feeling you didn't run out to your car and cry, or tell your husband or anyone until you wrote your ridiculous op ed.

Have a nice day and way to go undermining #MeToo at the expense of women that have truly been abused, like Ms. Headey above.

[PatSeg]

39. Well

This shows that there is more than one side to any story, which I might point out would include Al Franken grabbing your waist during a photo shoot. Just as I am inclined to give you the benefit of the doubt in regards to the fan at the Sexy Liberals party, I am equally inclined to give Al Franken the same. I know what sexual assault and abuse is and what happened to you is neither.

[hatrack]

40. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

[tenderfoot]

42. You're not talking about the man you "allegedly" mocked in the tweet

You're discussing an entirely different incident.

So, what did the guy do that you found the need to be jerk to him over?

[LisaL]

45. That's what I posted too. This story doesn't even sound like the same incident that is alleged in

the OP. OP isn't talking about somebody being offended by lesbian three-way jokes. It's about some fan being mocked.

[oasis]

63. A "buttery Chardonnay" will eventually get us to the heart

of the matter.

[LisaL]

71. Is buttery Chardonnay a code for something else?

I really am confused by this story.

[oasis]

83. No code. It's the same kind of rambling liars engage in when

they can't keep their stories straight. I doubt if the subject is smart enough to develop a code.

[GusBob]

86. I think it's an inside joke from the show

The Stephanie Miller radio show. I have heard that term on the air

[JI7]

82. Check out the CNN interview, she does the same shit there

[kcr]

43. If your intention was to lend credibility, I'm afraid you achieved the opposite.

Taking an incident that few reasonable people would define as sexual groping and claiming it as such has done the opposite of what you intended to do. You would have been better off making an argument for why their claims had merit. If you can't do that, then why are you so intent on claiming they have merit in the first place?

[MrsMatt]

46. The veracity of your story aside

if that is an example of your writing, I suggest you get a new job.

Execrable.

[TeamPooka]

48. That's a cute story. It is NOT a rebuttal or answering of the charge in the Twitter post.

That was about you mocking a solo person, a man, not Stephanie Miller or a couple from out of town.
As alibi's or explanations go that one is non-existent.
Welcome to DU.
Doesn't look like you'll be back.

[hlthe2b]

50. This ardent feminist thinks you, Tina Dupuy, need to do a LOT of self-reflection.

I agree with those who maintain that your attempt to ingratiate yourself into the "me too" movement based on a squeeze of your waist is intensely harmful to the movement. You have mocked the true victims of sexual assault and sexual extortion so that true victims will be unlikely to be taken seriously in the future and the movement has been truly set back. You have unfairly taken down someone whose offenses, if any, pale to those of true abusers and whose attempts to help the future of women through legislation and congressional support are sorely needed.

I hope your 15 minutes of fame were worth the countless harm you have wreaked.

[blm]

59. Exactly!

fvcking narcissists ONLY think of themselves

[LenaBaby61]

79. "I hope your 15 minutes of fame were worth the countless harm you have wreaked."

[mountain grammy]

53. Wow Tina. If this is you

It’s a bit ironic you should find a story about you “untrue and unfair”. That’s your thing.

Adding this: get help, Tina. You need it.

[questionseverything]

70. i imagine that tina got a big payday comin

this is all so frustrating ,dems were on the verge of winning again (at least that is how it felt) and then we got "insided"

[yardwork]

54. You just accused Stephanie Miller of making a sexually offensive joke.

I can't even.

[Thor_MN]

55. Unfair and untrue is substituting an irrelevant story.

Dishonest is claiming sexual misconduct because of being ashamed of weight gain.

[blm]

56. I know another person who didn't like to have his waist touched

[link:|

[blm]

58. Yeah...he was a real basket case.

My take:

You are so vain that your only thought was, "Damn, Al Franken is taking a photo with me right after I gained a few inches in my waist."

It was your narcissism AND insecurity you were feeling more than Al's hands on your waist.

And now you show up here because your vanity is once again begging to be soothed.

Move on - we are not kind to bullshit artists here.

[Tatiana]

57. I don't believe for a second that is why you "came forward."

But enjoy karma, because it will be coming your way.

[suffragette]

60. Judging by same metrics used on Franken, nothing you say can prove your innocence.

And no hearing can be allowed to sort out facts either.

Not saying I agree with that process - I don’t.

But it is quite unpleasant to have it applied, isn’t it?

[VermontKevin]

61. This is some Borowitz-level shit dude.

[Demit]

64. I can judge your credibility (how's your poor abused waist?) and I think that person

who you claim misunderstood you instead has you pegged exactly right.

[wellst0nev0ter]

65. Any way to verify the poster? n/t

[tenderfoot]

66. He responds here

Link to tweet

[wellst0nev0ter]

67. Okay, thanks

She even fixes some grammatical issues

[spooky3]

68. There was little to no "pattern."

You said: "I was part of a pattern, a pattern that seven other women had described nearly identically before I came forward." Not true.

No one else claimed that Franken touched her waist and that she considered that to be a "grope." A clothed waist is not a private nor an erogenous zone. A reasonable woman would not claim that even a quick waist squeeze that happened exactly as you said it did constituted groping--and you had YOUR arm around his back and your hand on his shoulder at the same time. And we don't have any evidence other than your claim that it happened as you said it did; Franken was denied his investigation.

Tweeden did NOT say she was groped nor did she provide any evidence that she was. The evidence she provided (photo) specifically showed she was NOT groped. He apologized for what she could rightfully and reasonably say was a tasteless and sexist photo if it were taken when she was asleep. Her claims about the skit kiss gone wrong are different from your incident and have not yet been substantiated. And, all of this happened in the context of a USO tour known for its "bawdy" humor.

Two accusers presented photos that did NOT substantiate their claims of being touched on either the breast or the rear, not the waist. The photos showed no inappropriate touching and in fact showed the accusers smiling broadly with their faces pressed up against Franken's, and with no awkward body language suggesting a shocking touch has occurred; contrast these with the photo of Taylor Swift with the perp's hand clearly in the vicinity of her rear and with her face nowhere close to his and her body's awkwardly moving away from him. In at least one of those cases the accuser's husband and many other potential witnesses were present. Both accusers are Republican voters.

One accuser who came forward anonymously AFTER Tweeden made her skit kiss gone wrong claim. This accuser claimed Franken inappropriately kissed her too. She also offered a very odd "quote" that has struck many people as something Franken (and most other normal people) would not have said, and he categorically denied it. Is it possible that she also is a Republican who came up with this claim after hearing about Tweeden's? In any case, it does not fit the "pattern."

The other accusers remained anonymous and provided no evidence other than that one or two people contacted by a reporter said the accusers had told them contemporaneously. Maybe this is true; but maybe these people were not told but simply wanted to be supportive of their friend or family member, or were persuaded by dirty tricksters to confirm. These claims, as with the others, should have been subject to the ethics investigation. There were too few details to determine whether these were part of a general pattern, but they didn't claim that waist touching was involved, so clearly the incidents were not "nearly identical" to yours or the others.

[intuito]

75. Please Reconsider Your Claim

I feel for your pain but maybe you want to reconsider your claim. You have done great damage to a true patriot by impuning Al Franken for a double squeeze at your waste. It was not harassment by any stretch of the imagination--just a warm and intimate gesture. Even you were delighted with your interaction at the time--according to the post you removed from facebook. By helping bring down Al Franken you have magnified the already very serious treat to democracy and to women's concerns. Is this what you really want? Is this what you want to be remember for? I cannot imagine that is true.

[Brother Buzz]

78. Why not ask her directly...upthread?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=9959195

[uppityperson]

87. They are replying directly to her at that post.

[Brother Buzz]

88. But she's not forthcoming in responding

I suspect the beat-down replies may turn Tina Dupuy into a one-post-wonder. I hope I'm wrong.

[rainin]

76. Make a video.

Why are interacting with this person? Anyone can make an account with her name. Tina, if this is you, make a video.

[Owl]

77. Exactly. A shitty person for your part in the Al Franken affair.

[MustLoveBeagles]

80. Not that I expect an answer to this but,

What does this story with the couple and Stephanie Miller have to do with tenderfoot's OP? They sound like two entirely different incidents. And are you slandering Stephanie Miller now? To what end? I'm confused by this.

I have some more questions. If having someone's hand on your waist in public while taking a photo is such an issue you should have said something BEFORE the photo was taken. Most people aren't mind readers. Do you have any idea of the damage you've done to Al Franken, his family and friends, the Democrats, and the Me Too movement? Do you even care? Your claim of impropriety on Al's part trivializes the pain the real survivors of abuse (some of whom I know) suffer from. Shame on you.

Trump's election "victory" last year was a real kick in the teeth to many Democrats. It's an open wound that never completely healed. The very last thing we needed was another one from a so called ally.

I think we're done here. How about I play the world's tiniest violin to send you on your way.

[JI7]

81. None of what you say seems to address what was in the OP

[hotrod0808]

89. Wow

Do you mean that you are upset because someone misunderstood the context of your actions that night because of how it reflects upon your character? And, you are bothered enough by people ganging up on you to reply publicly? Perhaps you should check the dictionary definition of the word "karma."

Also, maybe you should resign from whatever the hell it is that you do so that you can make the rest of us more comfortable.

[fleabiscuit]

91. A real name. Thanks for sharing. All the best. nt

[gopiscrap]

93. welcome to DU

[Cary]

94. Really?

Smh

[fleabiscuit]

90. Interesting what reveals itself under the darkness of anonymity. nt