My version of "To those saying Franken was "railroaded" and deserves "due process"...........

[USALiberal]

YOU ARE 100% CORRECT!!!!!

Carry on!

[Mme. Defarge]

1. Damn straight!

[old guy]

2. I'm still with Al until there is a complete investigation.

At that point, let the chips fall where they will.

[Mme. Defarge]

3. Exactement!

[LisaL]

7. There is not going to be an investigation now.

He resigned. Senate can only investigate its members.

[old guy]

9. Which means I'll continue to stick with Al like I said.

[Mr.Bill]

12. He has not resigned. n/t

[MustLoveBeagles]

11. +1

The DNC leadership and the 38 Senate Dem's have made a huge mistake.

[jakesblues]

34. Thanks

Thanks I needed that. I wish people would call for the hearing/investigation. I think it would be clear,he'd be cleared and most would begin to understand we've been played . Thanks

[Kittycow]

4. I'm starting to come out of my grief a little...

I just hope that demoralized Democrats don't stay home over this. Look what happened in 2012 when that happened!

I hope a Consoler-in-Chief emerges over this. I don't know who that would be... Obama?

It has to be addressed head-on somehow to get people out to vote.

[Demsrule86]

20. I won't stay home but who knows what others may do.

I won't lift a finger...Kirsten Gillibrand. I will vote against her in a primary and work against her no loyalty whatsoever...not happy with any that pile on. I will vote for whoever the Democratic nominee is of course...but in the primary...they can all go to hell.

[Kittycow]

32. I agree with you. I hope they all go down in primaries.

I mean, they don't value loyalty which is good to know.

[brush]

36. Yep, they wouldn't back their own. Fat chance they'll back their constituents in a crunch.

[Demsrule86]

46. That would be the best thing. And If I were guy, I would have serious misgivings about a party that

immediately gets rid of a person accused of what sexual harassment, I guess without any proof and not one hearing.

[Kittycow]

49. That's the thing that galls me...

No investigation and a rush to judgment. According to comments on Gillibrand's Facebook page and the Twitter #noGillibrand, she refused to answer the question of whether she was going to demand trump's resignation or not over the same issues!

I believe now that Gillibrand's did this to kneecap Franken out of the way for her 2020 aspirations. What? She couldn't stand on her own merits?

[denvine]

5. He was the sacrificial lamb!

Despite being one of the true progressive heroes they threw him under the bus to look like a party that is morally above the Republicans. That hasn't worked for them in the past. We'll see what happens now! He is truly one of the best!

[groundloop]

13. Should have waited on a full investigation then decided based on facts and not anonymous accusers

The few accusers who aren't anonymous aren't believable. Ms. Tweeden lied about when the photo of Al Franken pretending to grope her flak jacket was taken and was obviously fully participating in the sexual innuendo which was a part of the USO shows. Another woman didn't like that Al put his arm around her waist during a photo op, excuse me but that's NOTHING like stalking teenage girls. Al was railroaded and our party leaders fell for it.

[denvine]

21. I totally agree!

[wendyb]

6. Franken

I cannot get over it; I am sickened by his resignation. Even though I know he is resigning, there is a tiny flame stoking the hope that if Moore wins, he will change his mind.🤬

[dalton99a]

8. We must sacrifice our best and brightest... for no damn good reason

Well, perhaps GOP voters will see the light and vote for Democrats any day now

[BamaRefugee]

10. I always thought Democrats were absolutely opposed to and horrified by lynch mobs?

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GET A ROPE!

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[keithbvadu2]

16. So appropriate! Why did senators who asked Franken to resign hug him afterwards?

Why did senators who asked Franken to resign hug him afterwards?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029953946#post36

[DownriverDem]

25. Why?

Because they know Franken is a victim of politics. They don't hate Franken.

[Pluvious]

43. Al took a hit for the team.

By setting an example, and removing his presence as "false equivalence" ammunition to be exploited by defenders of the real vile predators.

[brooklynite]

27. Answer: because they like him...

I like him. Doesn't mean that I and they don't see his political reputation damaged by this.

[DownriverDem]

26. Oh please

You really need to go back and look at how politics works in our country. It was mean and dirty from our very beginning. Google it and you will see what I mean. Franken is a victim of politics. Focus on beating the crap out of the repubs.

[BamaRefugee]

31. Beat the crap out of them by removing the ONE Senator who actually WAS beating the crap out of them

Not mad at your post, just mad at what happened

[Cary]

14. I hear you and mostly agree.

This isn't criminal justice, it's politics. Al Franken is a brilliant man. His decision was his decision. No one could make him resign. I tend towards the notion that he is not guilty but I respect his political decision. I don't like it, but In respect it.

[Demsrule86]

18. We discussed this... he was forced out...and I am so angry about this...

[Cary]

35. Let me know how well your anger works out for you

If it's okay with you, I remain focused on my goal.

VOTE DEMOCRATIC!

[keithbvadu2]

15. Al Franken has absolution by republican theory

Al Franken has absolution by republican theory

A new republican meme is that Trump and Moore can have absolution by winning an election.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-gop-readies-itself-to-welcome-roy-moore/2017/11/20/ba5f44cc-ce36-11e7-9d3a-bcbe2af58c3a_story.html?utm_term=.76fa54f64721&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

"Just ask White House officials, Republican lawmakers and right-wing pundits, who lately argue that an electoral win provides absolution for any past sexual misconduct."

[Demsrule86]

17. Damn right...it has been a couple of days and I am still enraged...white hot rage.

[Egnever]

19. Same here

I keep wondering if I will get over it but each day I just keep getting more enraged.

[DownriverDem]

23. Move on

Use your enragement to beat the repubs.

[Egnever]

29. Hard to do when it was Dems that pissed me off.

I have plenty of outrage for the Republicans to spare already.

[Demsrule86]

47. Everything points to a right wing hit job...why would the Dems do this?

I don't get it.

[DownriverDem]

22. About That Due Process

Has Franken been charged with anything? No. There is nothing to have due process about.

It's Politics folks. Plain and simple Franken is a victim of politics. Politics is mean and dirty. It is not for the faint of heart.

With Conyers and Franken gone the Dems will be able to run on attacking trump and moore.

It appears that many here are looking at it with emotion. It's not about emotion.

Focus on beating the crap out of the repubs. Stop wasting energy. Carry on!

[LisaL]

24. Due process for him would be Ethics Investigation.

Which he asked for.

[Egnever]

30. Oh it has everything to do with emotion

Emotion directly effects turnout and if you think it doesn't you are fooling yourself. Trump won on emotion.

[Lotusflower70]

28. Thank you

I feel so betrayed at the loss of Senator Franken.

[tymorial]

33. How is it that people believe Franken deserves due process

While at the same time defending policy which promotes the ability for colleges to expel students based upon similar circumstances we are seeing today with Franken and others?

[Morris64]

37. Two words: implicit bias.

It is ugly, but it is in our nature as human beings.

[LisaL]

38. Who are these people you are accusing?

[Dream Girl]

39. I dont agree that colleges should be able to expel based on accusation and lack of

Due process. Women/accusers can lie.

[Demsrule86]

48. I don't support that. No one should face any repercussions on accusations.

[Honeycombe8]

40. Me, too! nt

[dlk]

41. I Wish Franken Wouldn't Resign

This is a huge loss for not just Democrats!

[stonecutter357]

42. K&R

[MrsMatt]

44. I think it may be the death of the Democratic Party as we know it. n/t

[Ligyron]

45. Whatever political capital those Dems gain by forcing Franken out

will not be worth the damage they've done to the party itself. Franken was one of the best things about the Democratic Party.