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Joe941

(2,848 posts)
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 11:13 PM Dec 2017

Democratic leader moral superiority

We were told Al had to go because we are the morally superior party - we are the party that stands up for the innocent and down trodden. But what kind of morality is it to throw an innocent individual under the bus? In this country we structure the justice system so there is a very high bar to be met to declare someone guilty. Even 1 out of 12 keeps someone from being declared guilty. This is because we have decided as a society it is better for a guilty person to go free than for an innocent person to be convicted. So morally superior? No, sadly not this time.

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Democratic leader moral superiority (Original Post) Joe941 Dec 2017 OP
the mostest highest muckety muck superior leaders do not call for trump to resign. I msongs Dec 2017 #1
I agree in general principle that this was a huge mistake, but it isn't accurate to compare The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2017 #2
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msongs

(67,430 posts)
1. the mostest highest muckety muck superior leaders do not call for trump to resign. I
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 11:26 PM
Dec 2017

guess morals are just an internal job

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,800 posts)
2. I agree in general principle that this was a huge mistake, but it isn't accurate to compare
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 11:26 PM
Dec 2017

Franken's situation to the requirements for a criminal conviction. It is true that in a criminal trial the state is required to prove all elements of the alleged crime beyond a reasonable doubt, and the defendant is entitled to a trial by a jury of his peers (and in most cases, a unanimous verdict). But this wasn't a criminal proceeding and it shouldn't be compared to one.

It was, however, unfair in the sense that the senators were more concerned in covering their political butts with the appearance of virtue than in allowing the investigation Franken requested to proceed and giving him a chance to clear his name. He was railroaded, and I'm afraid it will backfire on those senators.

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