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trof

(54,256 posts)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 07:36 PM Jul 2012

OK. I've said this before. License gun shooters, not gun owners.

You have to have a license to drive (car and boat in most states), fly, fish, hunt, etc.

Having a driver's license doesn't mean you have to own a car.
Maybe you just rent one once in a while.
Same for boats.

A hunting license doesn't mean you own a gun.
A fishing license doesn't mean you own a rod and reel or even a cane pole.
And of course a flying license doesn't mean you own an airplane.

For many of these licenses you have to demonstrate a certain degree of knowledge about the related activity.

Why not for guns?
At the very least you take a written test demonstrating your knowledge of gun handling and safe shooting practices.
And pass a background check that shows you're not a felon or have a previous record of violent behavior.
(OK, this wouldn't have helped in the Aurora case.)

Better would be passing a course with a certified instructor.
But that might be too much to ask for, at least right now.

So...no gun registration.
"THEY" are not gonna take your guns away NRA.
But to fire a gun you need a license.

Yeah, I know.
Good luck with that.




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OK. I've said this before. License gun shooters, not gun owners. (Original Post) trof Jul 2012 OP
I say give it a try. Any and all solutions are worth considering. LonePirate Jul 2012 #1
I've always liked this notion. Robb Jul 2012 #2
Hey Dingbat. trof Jul 2012 #3
How bout an insurance mandate (tax) IggleDoer Jul 2012 #4
Well, it's safe to assume that if you own a gun you plan on shooting it. NashvilleLefty Jul 2012 #5
Substitute voting for gun ownership and see how you like it ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #6
We have something like that in California - a handgun safety certificate petronius Jul 2012 #7
Interesting concept, trof, and one that I like. madinmaryland Jul 2012 #8

IggleDoer

(1,186 posts)
4. How bout an insurance mandate (tax)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 07:51 PM
Jul 2012

You shoot someone - you pay in advance base on your personal risk of shooting off your firearms.

Insurance underwriters can develop a fee schedule based on your likelihood to use it inappropriately. Administer personality tests, etc.

This would not infringe on the "right to bear arms.". Only on your accepting responsibility for your actions.

NashvilleLefty

(811 posts)
5. Well, it's safe to assume that if you own a gun you plan on shooting it.
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 08:00 PM
Jul 2012

That being said, I've always felt that licensing should include training (especially safety) and testing, just like driving. And, perhaps, the NRA and similar "pro-gun" associations could provide proper training. Of course, the State (Federal or Local) should be responsible for the testing and issuance.

So, I guess I agree with the majority of your OP.

petronius

(26,602 posts)
7. We have something like that in California - a handgun safety certificate
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 08:12 PM
Jul 2012

There's a written test to get the HSC, and you're required to go through a prescribed handling demonstration before taking possession of a handgun. (We also have registration for newly imported or purchased handguns.) I don't have a real problem with something like the HSC as long as it's purely administrative and there are no barriers other than passing a reasonable and relevant test. I.e., no discretion on the part of the issuing agency and no eligibility criteria beyond the test and the existing federal gun ownership law.

It might have some impact on accidents and some illegal acts like straw buys, but I doubt it would deter anyone actually bent on murder. I'd also like to see some basic firearm safety instruction in schools, for kids who may come across a firearm outside (or in) their own homes.

Off topic, but does your fishing license actually require any demonstration of knowledge? About the only thing ours prove is that we knew we had to buy one (and, perhaps, an acknowledgement that F&G laws actually exist...)

madinmaryland

(64,933 posts)
8. Interesting concept, trof, and one that I like.
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 08:27 PM
Jul 2012

For true gun enthusiasts, whether it be for hunting or target shooting, shouldn't mind.

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