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Th1onein

(8,514 posts)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 04:51 PM Jul 2012

Does anyone else find this a bit OBSCENE at this point?

I'm watching the news coverage of the Colorado movie massacre and I've seen a couple of press conferences with the police chief and other powers that be. What's making me sick to my stomach is the constant, continual back slapping and self-congratulations on the part of these people. Okay, OKAY! You're doing your damned jobs! Do we have to hear, over and over again, ad nauseum, how great you are?

I'm sorry. I just think it's really inappropriate at this point. They need to wait, at least, until we bury the dead, for God's sake.

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Does anyone else find this a bit OBSCENE at this point? (Original Post) Th1onein Jul 2012 OP
No. Swede Jul 2012 #1
:thumbsup: Gidney N Cloyd Jul 2012 #5
Agree rufus dog Jul 2012 #14
Imagine the cops that guarded the theatre with the ten bodies laying in blood. Swede Jul 2012 #15
Serously agree Mimosa Jul 2012 #2
Want to end mass murder? nebenaube Jul 2012 #12
That voice sounds JUST LIKE Pete Townshend. Fawke Em Jul 2012 #26
It's always like this after a mass murder...... soccer1 Jul 2012 #3
No, not really. Pamela Troy Jul 2012 #4
Self congratulation is this 'I did a great job!' Bluenorthwest Jul 2012 #6
Wow to you, too, Bluenorthwest! WOW! Th1onein Jul 2012 #8
Turn.The.TV.Off....n/t monmouth Jul 2012 #7
I always prefer not to watch the 24 hour talking heads that are just filling air time. pennylane100 Jul 2012 #9
The entire country is an obscenity for the most part, so your point is? BeHereNow Jul 2012 #10
That's why after I've heard the facts of a tragedy I don't bother with the "news" that goes on Raine Jul 2012 #11
I find something different obscene GarroHorus Jul 2012 #13
Sorry, Garrohorus, I'm not into respect for authority. Th1onein Jul 2012 #16
Lot's of obscenity is what I see n/t GarroHorus Jul 2012 #17
Imagine a doctor doing something like that Th1onein Jul 2012 #30
I think they're talking to the people of Aurora mainly lunatica Jul 2012 #18
Very little that isn't obscene on tv, internet, radio, games, these days... Skip Intro Jul 2012 #19
There was a time when people were humble about doing their jobs, but now days Lex Jul 2012 #20
I don't find it obscene. Kalidurga Jul 2012 #21
Bravo GarroHorus Jul 2012 #22
Well, I do see where you are coming from. Zax2me Jul 2012 #23
No... actually I want to see an Obama commercial Fawke Em Jul 2012 #24
The entire episode is obscene. LiberalAndProud Jul 2012 #25
I'm with the "turn off the tube" crowd. MADem Jul 2012 #27
Reaffirmation of their manliness. DainBramaged Jul 2012 #28
We had that during Katrina too bluestateguy Jul 2012 #29
 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
14. Agree
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 09:17 PM
Jul 2012

There was a nurse on last night that appeared seconds away from a massive breakdown. She composed herself and went in to saying how everyone did a great job.

In reality she was just trying to make it through the interview and likely the most traumatic day of her life.

Swede

(33,255 posts)
15. Imagine the cops that guarded the theatre with the ten bodies laying in blood.
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 09:22 PM
Jul 2012

That would cause nightmares forever.

Mimosa

(9,131 posts)
2. Serously agree
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 04:53 PM
Jul 2012

Which is why I have not been watching the 'news coverage' on this. Everybody wants their 15 minutes.

soccer1

(343 posts)
3. It's always like this after a mass murder......
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 04:53 PM
Jul 2012

the 24/7 news channels have to fill in air time so they yak, yak, yak .....say anything. I haven't watched any of the coverage on TV. I read newspapers online.

Pamela Troy

(1,371 posts)
4. No, not really.
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 04:58 PM
Jul 2012

The job of the police involves coming face to face with the horrors of these crimes and putting themselves in harms way. I can understand the relief that they managed to prevent things from getting even worse.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
6. Self congratulation is this 'I did a great job!'
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 05:21 PM
Jul 2012

Leadership is this- 'they are doing fine work under tragic circumstances'. People in leadership roles should thank those doing the hardest and most traumatic duties.
It is interesting to me that you use the pronoun 'we' in terms of burying the dead, and 'they' in terms of the people who are actually burying the dead. 'These people' carried the stretchers. You say 'these people'. Then you say 'we'. I have to say wow to that. Wow.

Th1onein

(8,514 posts)
8. Wow to you, too, Bluenorthwest! WOW!
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 05:40 PM
Jul 2012

When the Chief of Police comes on TeeVee and congratulates and backslaps the police force, I call that self-congratulatory. I think most people would.

I think there's a time for that, and now is not the time. Nor is it the time for introducing "dignitaries." There is a time and a place for this sort of thing. Now is not the time. All of the next of kin of the dead have not been notified yet. Jesus.

They, we, them, us, you, who cares how it's couched, or in what terms? I'm not Mitt's wife and I could care less about the pronouns. It's just sickening, all the self-congratulations that are going on right now. And introducing dignitaries? Huh? Is this a tragedy or a political rally?

pennylane100

(3,425 posts)
9. I always prefer not to watch the 24 hour talking heads that are just filling air time.
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 05:59 PM
Jul 2012

Once I know that there is no more people in harms way, I prefer not to watch the spectacle that is presented by the media, all of them trying to get a special angle on a tragic story that will give them more camera time than their competition. I find it disgusting. I know the people affected by this terrible crime want answers but I also think the deserve to get those answers in privacy, not on a world stage.

In a few days, maybe longer, we will get a clearer picture of who this monster was and what motivated him but I think the families of the victims should be given some privacy while they are dealing with this tragedy.

What I do find very distasteful is the gun rights advocates who are already busy putting in their two cents worth before the victims of the shooting have been buried. Shame on them.

BeHereNow

(17,162 posts)
10. The entire country is an obscenity for the most part, so your point is?
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 06:06 PM
Jul 2012

I have never been so disgusted in my life.
All of it, every where you turn, it is spiritually, emotionally and physically FILTHY.

Not the country I grew up in, not at all.

Nothing surprises me anymore; the depths of depravity have become,
sadly, something I expect.

BHN

Raine

(30,540 posts)
11. That's why after I've heard the facts of a tragedy I don't bother with the "news" that goes on
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 06:16 PM
Jul 2012

for days and days afterward.

 

GarroHorus

(1,055 posts)
13. I find something different obscene
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 09:08 PM
Jul 2012

What I find obscene is somebody with the temerity to disrespect a leader of first responders trying to boost the morale of his team during a traumatic and trying period.

That's what I find obscene.

Th1onein

(8,514 posts)
16. Sorry, Garrohorus, I'm not into respect for authority.
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 11:12 PM
Jul 2012

And there's a time and a place for that sort of thing. That was neither the time nor the place.

Like I said, it's OBSCENE.

Th1onein

(8,514 posts)
30. Imagine a doctor doing something like that
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 11:48 AM
Jul 2012

Coming out of the operating room and telling the parent, "Hey, your kid's dead, but let me tell you, that anesthesiologist did a GREAT job! And I want to give a special thanks to the operating room nurse, too! And, by the way, let me introduce you to some of my buddies...."

I'm sorry. I've lost a child. I know what that feels like. This is NOT the time to be congratulating yourself, or your peers, for a job well done. And it CERTAINLY isn't the time to be introducing dignitaries!

FFS, they hadn't even notified all of the relatives of the dead, at the first press conference where he did this!

There's such a thing as decency and decorum, and no amount of respect for "authority" overrides that.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
18. I think they're talking to the people of Aurora mainly
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 11:18 PM
Jul 2012

probably trying to assure them that they're on the job. But I'm glad they're also talking to the country. I definitely want to know what's happening other than what the journalists are coming up with. Hearing from the Police Chief and the FBI and the bomb experts is important to me.

And you never know how much pressure they're under from the community. And a lot of police took the wounded to the hospital in their squad cars and I assume some people were saved because of this.

Skip Intro

(19,768 posts)
19. Very little that isn't obscene on tv, internet, radio, games, these days...
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 11:32 PM
Jul 2012

and consequently, ever steadily, in society, people in general, are increasingly obscene, celebrating and giggling at the corrosion of any morality.

Disease is being pumped into our minds and our kids' minds from every angle.

This has been going on long before the events of the past couple of days.

Lex

(34,108 posts)
20. There was a time when people were humble about doing their jobs, but now days
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 11:38 PM
Jul 2012

everybody wants do the touchdown dance and shout "USA USA" all too often.


Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
21. I don't find it obscene.
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 12:04 AM
Jul 2012

Because I don't see it that way. They dealt with a traumatic situation and they have been dealing with it for a couple of days now. Until you know what it is like to pick up a badly wounded person that you don't know if they are going to live or die and then you have your co-workers dealing with a booby trapped apartment. Not, knowing if they are going to live or die, because there is probably no way to make sure that disarming all the bombs is going to be 100% safe. And until you have to tell someone that their loved ones didn't make it. I don't think you are in a position to say what is obscene.

 

Zax2me

(2,515 posts)
23. Well, I do see where you are coming from.
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 01:45 AM
Jul 2012

It bothers me that first responders arrived within a reported 2 minutes - yet the shooter went on for close to 20?
All of this is too horrifically fresh.
And frustrating.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
24. No... actually I want to see an Obama commercial
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 01:59 AM
Jul 2012

showing those PUBLIC workers responding overlapped with Romney's asinine comments about how Wisconsin voted to teach us that we don't want taxes to pay for these people.

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
25. The entire episode is obscene.
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 01:59 AM
Jul 2012

If James Holmes was seeking notoriety ...

[center]mission accomplished.[/center]

I suspect tru-tv is maneuvering as we speak to bring us into the front row viewing audience. Crime porn at its best.


If the press conferences are too self-congratulatory for your taste, turn them off.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
27. I'm with the "turn off the tube" crowd.
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 02:06 AM
Jul 2012

You're not the Robot Chicken, strapped down and forced to watch. You have options. Exercise them.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
29. We had that during Katrina too
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 02:10 AM
Jul 2012

I remember Anderson Cooper had finally had enough and he blew up at Mary Landrieu in an interview about all the politicians congratulating each other.

Found it here:

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