And what would you have happen to people who run afoul of the new gun laws you propose?

[bluestateguy]

So you advocate more gun laws, and by extension, more powers for government agents to enforce those laws.

What would you have happen to someone who owns an illegal gun, or doesn't fill out the registration forms correctly, or forgets to take a required training course? Someone neglects to have the required trigger lock on their gun; someone doesn't store the gun in the required canister. So what would you have the government do to these people? Jail? Fines? Probation? Some combination of the three?

Then we are likely to have more people arrested and their homes searched by police on the basis of the ever amorphous "weapons charges". Weapons charges can then give the police a basis to execute more search warrants of more homes, poking around for drugs or anything else that the cops don't like.

More laws mean more powers for police, which is likely to result in curtailment of other freedoms.

[LiberalEsto]

1. Why, it's obvious

They should be shot, naturally.

[soccer1]

2. Well.....

If registration, a permit or training is required I imagine the person would not get possession of the gun until those requirements were met. So, a non issue. If a child is killed because an owner neglects to properly secure the gun, then I imagine he/she would face some level of criminal charge. If guns are legally purchased and handled and cared for appropriately, according to state of residence laws, then what problem could there be? There's only a problem when someone gets hurt. The laws differ by state. Know the laws, follow the laws....no problem. No police involvement to worry about, unless you're doing something against the law.


Don't "weapons charges" relate to people who have broken the law in terms of the owning and usage of their weapons?

[bluestateguy]

3. "No police involvement to worry about, unless you're doing something against the law."

Sounds like something we would hear from John Ashcroft or Alberto Gonzalez defending the USA Patriot Act or warantless wiretapping.

[soccer1]

5. I was referring to law enforcement raiding homes.....

and brining people in on weapons' charges.


I believe they have to have a warrant to do that?

[upaloopa]

4. That's a canard. Don't tell me we don't have a right or a need to do something about gun violence.

Maybe some of gun owners rights should and will be curtailed. Instead of your self serving ideas why not work with other people and try to help reduce the number of people getting shot.

You will lose those precious rights with your do nothing attitude.

Mark my word, the more tragedies the more people will insist on more regulations. So get off your constitution and join in finding a reasonable solution. Even if some people have unregistered guns doesn't mean we through up our hands and submit to your kind of thinking. You are hurting your cause with inaction.

[safeinOhio]

6. Just like someone that

doesn't have their car registered, didn't fill out their car registration forms correctly, didn't pass the drivers test, has faulty equipment, parks in a no parking spot. These people get tickets, fines, jail, probation or some combination of them.

There may be a small % of people calling for confiscation, not many or enough to matter. As for those calling for registration of handguns, background checks, mandatory trigger locks in homes with children, the world as we know it will not end if any of those happen and all would be constitutionally legal.