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Duer 157099

(17,742 posts)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 02:42 PM Jul 2012

Is loud music enough of a (legal) reason to enter a home without permission?

If my stereo is blasting at midnight and I'm in the shower, do the police have the right to knock my door down?

(not saying I'd ever blast my stereo at midnight while in the shower, but this is a hypothetical)

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Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
1. It probably is...
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 02:45 PM
Jul 2012

maybe not technically. However, they could say they suspected foul play if you don't answer the door because you can't hear them.

 

Lionessa

(3,894 posts)
2. Wild guess, ... depends on local noise rules
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 02:46 PM
Jul 2012

And I don't mean laws. If in a complex with rules about noise after 10pm or such, yes, I think they can enter to enforce, but also if the music is blaring and you're not answering they might suspect a problem, like you're passed out, hit your head, died in the shower, whatever.

Duer 157099

(17,742 posts)
3. What if someone sleeps with earplugs in and
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 02:49 PM
Jul 2012

some device automatically and accidentally turns on their apartment?

It bothers me that people think it is OK to enter someone's home just for that.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
6. You can't be an ass to your neighbors without suffering the consequences.
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 02:56 PM
Jul 2012

Some of them may have a desperate need for a sound night's sleep. So, yeah, if you're inconsiderate enough to keep people awake and you won't or don't answer your door, I say break it in and shut that shit off!

 

Lionessa

(3,894 posts)
7. Before you get your panties in a wad, consider this alternative scenario.
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 02:57 PM
Jul 2012

As you say, something kicks on or is left on in the home of your friend, sister, daughter, mother, or grandpa, neighbors call the police, the police arrive, knock and leave. Two days later, you come to find this dear person was in distress, couldn't answer the door, and instead died because the police didn't investigate and enter. Now does it seem like such a bad way of doing things? Seems if this happened someone would sue the police.

Duer 157099

(17,742 posts)
8. Unfortunately you project wrongly onto me
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 02:59 PM
Jul 2012

No, I would not want that, never. No matter.

Slippery slope and all that.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
9. Too many elderly people -and some not so elderly- die alone.
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 03:02 PM
Jul 2012

If there is sufficient reason to suspect an emergency, then the police would be right to take the appropriate action.

Study that term, will you: 'sufficient reason'. That is not a 'slippery slope' if a reasonable person agrees with it.

The law is not always black and white.

 

Lionessa

(3,894 posts)
10. No I was sure you wouldn't like that scenario, I wasn't saying you would.
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 03:04 PM
Jul 2012

But now you see the slippery slope of entering places with loud whatever at a time when loudness is not okay and no one answers the door.

It could be a good idea on one hand and yet an invasion of privacy on the other. I would hate though to be the cop that didn't enter and a few days later wished I had.

 

Iggy

(1,418 posts)
4. There are Noise Ordinances in Nearly Every Town/City
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 02:53 PM
Jul 2012

usually there's an ordinance stipulating you cannot be disruptive/loud past a
certain hour.. typically 11:00 pm.

yes, the cops have the right to knock ON your door to ask you (once) to turn your
music down. if you don't comply for some reason, it's going to escalate & you're
going to get busted for disturbing the peace, etc.

In the case of Holmes' crib, I'm reading the music went off at 1:00 am-- around the
same time he was shooting up the theater.

in this case it's wise the police did not bust down his door, because it appears he
had his place "booby trapped".. I use the term loosely because in spite of all the
hype going on right now on CNN... what he set up does not fit the definition of
what an actual booby trap is. (the wires/devices are not visible).

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
12. Entry without a warrant requires exigent circumstances
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 04:21 PM
Jul 2012

Loud music would not normally qualify. Cops have been known to embroider on facts to reach that threshold.

Duer 157099

(17,742 posts)
17. Short of someone screaming for help
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 04:55 PM
Jul 2012

I can't ever imagine going into someone's home uninvited. I wouldn't even check the doorknob to see if it was unlocked.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
16. the police entered my home without a warrant
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 04:40 PM
Jul 2012

no music
they climbed in the bedroom window
i had called in sick to work,apparently no one piicked up the message
i woke up to flash lights in my face
i called it unlawful entry
they called it a wellness check
i am not eldery

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