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"As a lawyer, I can confirm that..." (Original Post) DetlefK Dec 2017 OP
I didn't know Trump U also had a law school! nt ExciteBike66 Dec 2017 #1
LOL nt DesertRat Dec 2017 #22
it's a satellite of liberty law school. niyad Dec 2017 #42
Kicked cuz this made me laugh. Drahthaardogs Dec 2017 #2
LOL Gothmog Dec 2017 #3
So the Trump team is either lying or idiots. nt Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #4
Not mutually exclusive. dchill Dec 2017 #9
I stand corrected. Trump team is lying and stupid. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #11
It's the idiocy that makes the lying so hilarious. dchill Dec 2017 #12
It is all quite comical true. Except for the part that they could blow up the world. nt Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #14
Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb... dchill Dec 2017 #16
Yes, living it is less amusing. nt Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #17
Lately, Slim Pickens riding the bomb has been a head worm. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #24
Maybe next, Attorney Dowd NewJeffCT Dec 2017 #5
If Dowd was lying about this malaise Dec 2017 #7
Has Dowd violated any laws or ethics rules? (n/t) PJMcK Dec 2017 #18
I believe he has NewJeffCT Dec 2017 #19
Thanks PJMcK Dec 2017 #20
Disbarred for the Con malaise Dec 2017 #21
he IS a lawyer! Motley13 Dec 2017 #39
He could be in serious trouble anyway, as he violates Alice11111 Dec 2017 #29
According to my recent genome test, snort Dec 2017 #45
As I stated, no offense intended, meaning neanderthals Alice11111 Dec 2017 #46
And of course the base will believe it. sheilahi Dec 2017 #15
Every word is the gospel truth. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #33
Funny but not a laughing matter mgardener Dec 2017 #6
Good one dalton99a Dec 2017 #8
Trump's lawyer should get disbarred. Baitball Blogger Dec 2017 #10
Bill Clinton got disbarred, but then he was a Dem and a Clinton. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #32
You're my doppleganger. Baitball Blogger Dec 2017 #38
Yes! One lawyer told my client, out of my presence, that she Alice11111 Dec 2017 #41
What we need in the world are more lawyers like Baitball Blogger Dec 2017 #44
Thank you. For me, it is pretty much limited to violations Alice11111 Dec 2017 #47
I know non-lawyers don't believe this. Dread Pirate Roberts Dec 2017 #13
Thank you for quoting it. Yes, non lawyers don't believe it, Alice11111 Dec 2017 #35
Too funny. gademocrat7 Dec 2017 #23
ROFL! smirkymonkey Dec 2017 #25
Hey he reads DU. That's my line I wrote a couple of days ago. Kablooie Dec 2017 #26
it doesn't have to be word for word NJCher Dec 2017 #52
Yep. Here's my post. Kablooie Dec 2017 #53
INCREDIBLE! Your thoughts were taken! NJCher Dec 2017 #54
Only the BEST PEOPLE underpants Dec 2017 #27
Well, the best lawyers REFUSED to work for Trump because of his habit of not paying up. DetlefK Dec 2017 #31
I am your lawyer. Your crimes are my crimes. delisen Dec 2017 #28
Lol Oh snap! Faux pas Dec 2017 #30
Otherwise, these things drag on and you have too many billable hours. L. Coyote Dec 2017 #34
As lawyer, I can confirm... syringis Dec 2017 #36
as is the lawyer with the cereal box degree Alice11111 Dec 2017 #48
Thanks for the laugh... HeartlandDem Dec 2017 #37
Really laughed at that one. efhmc Dec 2017 #40
The willful ignorance of his supports is stunning jimlup Dec 2017 #43
Giggety. louis-t Dec 2017 #49
Why the hell would a lawyer be dumb enough to be the fall guy for Trump. C Moon Dec 2017 #50
And the second thing you learn at law school: FM123 Dec 2017 #51

dchill

(38,565 posts)
16. Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb...
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 10:48 AM
Dec 2017

The movie was funny. The humor doesn't exactly translate to reality, though.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
24. Lately, Slim Pickens riding the bomb has been a head worm.
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 12:07 PM
Dec 2017

Yah-hoo,

and, "There ain't no time to wonder why,
Yippee, we're all going to die."

Makes me want to put my head under my tiny desk top.

So much winning!!!

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
5. Maybe next, Attorney Dowd
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 10:02 AM
Dec 2017

can tweet out that he contacted the Russians to interfere in the elections on Trump's behalf

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
19. I believe he has
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 11:07 AM
Dec 2017

According to attorney Seth Abramson, he could be disbarred for this action. At the least, a lengthy suspension would be in order.


Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
29. He could be in serious trouble anyway, as he violates
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 12:19 PM
Dec 2017

Rules of Professional Conduct for Lawyers. REALLY, REALLY stupid. There are Common discussions among lawyers about people tending to hire lawyers who reflect their personality. Some people want an agressive SOB, others are methodical and careful, some want to control every detail and get upset if the lawyer won't break the rules to do what they want.


Seems like rules. Laws, regs, and norms are ignored by these crazy aggressive neanderthals...no offense to neanderthals. If the Clintons or Obama had a lawyer doing this BS, it would be all we would be hearing about.

snort

(2,334 posts)
45. According to my recent genome test,
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 05:12 PM
Dec 2017

I'm 4 percent neanderthal. You need to apologize to 4 percent of me, otherwise, Og no happy, Og sad. Grunt.

sheilahi

(277 posts)
15. And of course the base will believe it.
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 10:45 AM
Dec 2017

And then he can tweet that it was actually him on that Access Hollywood bus doing a drop dead impression of the mouth breather.

mgardener

(1,822 posts)
6. Funny but not a laughing matter
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 10:05 AM
Dec 2017

Trump should have to explain, under oath, how that tweet was sent to the American people.
And pay the price for lying.

Baitball Blogger

(46,769 posts)
10. Trump's lawyer should get disbarred.
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 10:37 AM
Dec 2017

Not that I don't believe that lawyers cross the line in order to protect their money generating clients. I have seen it in action on a local level. What I haven't seen is the lawyers getting disbarred over it.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
32. Bill Clinton got disbarred, but then he was a Dem and a Clinton.
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 12:38 PM
Dec 2017

This administration has and had a whole gaggle of lawyers around them who should get their licenses suspended or be disbarred, including Pence, Sessions (I filed a Disciplinary Complaint against him in Alabama), Christi, Giuliani, Kellyanne, McTurtle, Gorsuch, Kushner....

I agree I have seen people do things all of the time that warrant suspension or disbarment. They usually walk and move on to higher things.
I've been made fun of before because I wouldn't do illegal or unethical things, and I'm not a rigid stickler, but many people virtually ignore the rules. Then, some mess up bigly, or offend the wrong people, and get disciplined.

Baitball Blogger

(46,769 posts)
38. You're my doppleganger.
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 01:13 PM
Dec 2017

"They usually walk and move on to higher things."

Leaving you to lose respect for the state's bar association. Doesn't it?

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
41. Yes! One lawyer told my client, out of my presence, that she
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 02:02 PM
Dec 2017

needed to pay him $1000 or she would go to jail. Lawyers are not allowed to talk to other lawyers clients. I was out of the courtroom on a bathroom break, in, oddly, a complicated lawyer malpractice case, involving a lot of lawyers, and this attorney went to the other side of the courtroom to sit down by her and scare her to death. She was a naive elderly lady. A few nights later, I was talking to her on the phone the night before court, and she said, in response, " that's why I gave him $1000, because he told me I could go to jail if I didn't pay him."

I was dumbfounded. By morning, I had prepared various Motions to Sanction the lawyer, to present to the court before court started. He said, he took her check, but he never intended to cash it. He was going to give it back. (Sounds like an argument Trump would make). The Court of course was mad. The judge held him in Contempt of Court. He was ordered to pay my client back, plus another $1000 for a penalty, and her attorney fees. The funds were to be paid out of his own pocket, not his firm's. He was ordered to write a formal apology to my client, stating the rules he had violated. Plus, he had to self report to the bar, basically file a complaint against himself. Five years later he was President of the State Bar.

I could tell you more stories, and I'm sure you know many too.

Baitball Blogger

(46,769 posts)
44. What we need in the world are more lawyers like
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 03:16 PM
Dec 2017

Algernon Sydney Sullivan. A lawyer who made it to the top of his profession by holding other lawyers in check of their professional ethics.

Sounds like you're one of them.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
47. Thank you. For me, it is pretty much limited to violations
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 06:34 PM
Dec 2017

against my clients or in my cases, which is a full time job, though there have been times someone did something so egregious, that they had to be taken down, a few judges. You really don't get paid for that, and I have spent many all nighters working on it. Some of the small stuff you have to let go, or you will never get anything done substantively. However, sometimes, regardless of the time, cost to me, damage to the body from ridiculous hours, some of those unethical, ruthless, bully jerks have to be taken to the woodshed. They will only cross me once.

Dread Pirate Roberts

(1,897 posts)
13. I know non-lawyers don't believe this.
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 10:41 AM
Dec 2017

Lawyers really aren't supposed to lie about things that matter.

Mr. Dowd has gotten himself into quite a corner.

Transactions With Persons Other Than Clients
Rule 4.1 Truthfulness In Statements To Others

In the course of representing a client a lawyer shall not knowingly:

(a) make a false statement of material fact or law to a third person; or

(b) fail to disclose a material fact to a third person when disclosure is necessary to avoid assisting a criminal or fraudulent act by a client, unless disclosure is prohibited by Rule 1.6.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
35. Thank you for quoting it. Yes, non lawyers don't believe it,
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 12:43 PM
Dec 2017

and some lawyers ignore it. There are ethical lawyers though, contrary to common opinion. I think the decline in ethics is getting worse all of the time. The judges I know say so too. I suppose the profession is declining along with society in ethics.

NJCher

(35,766 posts)
52. it doesn't have to be word for word
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 06:36 AM
Dec 2017

to be plagiarism, as I'm sure you know. Did you post this at DU?

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
31. Well, the best lawyers REFUSED to work for Trump because of his habit of not paying up.
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 12:35 PM
Dec 2017

Dowd is not the best. Dowd is the best of what Trump can get.

delisen

(6,046 posts)
28. I am your lawyer. Your crimes are my crimes.
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 12:18 PM
Dec 2017

Your tweets are my tweets. We are in this together, deeply.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
34. Otherwise, these things drag on and you have too many billable hours.
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 12:43 PM
Dec 2017

That's the second thing you learn at law school, avoid billable hours at all costs.
Pass on the costs to the state.

syringis

(5,101 posts)
36. As lawyer, I can confirm...
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 12:53 PM
Dec 2017

...that is the stupidest thing I have ever heard from another lawyer.

He must have found his degree in a cereal box !

Let's say his tale cheks out, the fact remains that Trump is responsible for what it is written on his Twitter account.

C Moon

(12,223 posts)
50. Why the hell would a lawyer be dumb enough to be the fall guy for Trump.
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 12:07 AM
Dec 2017

Either Trump promised him a pardon, should he get caught;
or, the lawyer is in this as deep as the rest of the scum-traitors.

FM123

(10,054 posts)
51. And the second thing you learn at law school:
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 12:46 AM
Dec 2017

Is to talk really loud about your case while eating lunch outside with a whole bunch of people listening, especially journalists that work next door.

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