Ever heard of Problem/Reaction/Solution?

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It's a way of devising situations so that there is an excuse to do something that is very, very wrong. It happened on 9/11. We went into two countries that had NOTHING to do with what happened, we killed a million people, and did untold damage--both physical and psychological. For what? And where are our civil liberties now?

This is yet another way of terrorizing us into submission and people are so brainwashed by the propaganda and the drama that they willingly submit

People don't just "go off." Serial killers kill for a purpose. Jeffrey Dahmer stated that he wanted someone near him. This young man was in the science of the brain. It's very possible that he agreed to test some new drug for Big Pharma and that did him in. Have you ever known or met schizophrenics? They are so out of it, they would never be able to plan ahead like that. It is a horrible thing to call this simple "mental illness."

[HiPointDem]

1. kr

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2. Thank you very much for a voice of sanity in the wilderness.

[DearAbby]

6. The Royal family really Lizards?

[2ndAmForComputers]

12. You're KR'ing a troll.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=287461&sub=trans

[HiPointDem]

18. I kr-ed this:

We went into two countries that had NOTHING to do with what happened, we killed a million people, and did untold damage--both physical and psychological. For what? And where are our civil liberties now?

[MineralMan]

3. Well, that's one of the most far-fetched theories I've heard

about this. Blame Big Pharma? Now I've heard everything.

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4. CIA, I mean. MK Ultra.

Check it out--they are doing it again--this time at Gitmo. They've done it all along in prisons. I bet they did it to Charles Manson. They use drugs to make the brain more suggestible.

[Trillo]

13. Wasn't that the premise of Firefly?

The government had used a drug and/or technique that had been expected to pacify and entire planet's population, but in some percentage of the population, it had the opposite result, and created Reeavers (sorry, don't know how to spell that name, have never seen it in print), zombie like post-humans whose only motive was violence, torture, and mayhem. The government covered it up, as they were responsible for releasing the agent.

[MineralMan]

16. Nonsense. You were talking about Big Pharma.

While this shooter may have been taking psychoactive drugs, they weren't part of some test. You're talking conspiracy theory nonsense, to be quite frank.

[DearAbby]

5. Having some reasonable restrictions is OKAY.

When did this country become such weenies?

[HiPointDem]

8. what? the weenies are the people who demand to be protected from every possible ill & don't

mind if others suffer for it.

[backscatter712]

11. I've been in a couple flame wars here already over this.

"But it's for the children! I don't care about geeks in costume!"

[backscatter712]

17. The TSA's true purpose is to condition the American people for obedience.

It's all theater. It's theater that sends one message. "We can fuck with you any time we want. We can create stupid rules arbitrarily and make you stand on one foot and dance like little monkeys, and if you say anything, we'll beat the shit out of you, throw you in jail and wreck your life! OBEY!"

Anyone who approves of this moral-panic-driven authoritarianism is un-American.

[ananda]

7. Well..

This is why I consider Aurora an act of terrorism.. because
of the response.

If more freedoms and rights are restricted, and it appears
they will be, then we will be marching just that much
further down the road of a police state.

If fear rules us, tyranny prevails... and the casualties expand
from there.. just as they did after 911.

[Posteritatis]

9. As far as stretches go that really tests some tensile strength right there. (nt)

[backscatter712]

10. I've been posting earlier about moral panic.

As you point out, we went to wars based on lies and killed hundreds of thousands that had nothing to do with 9/11 because we were scared, apeshit, and turned stupid and authoritarian. We sent remote-controlled drones to blow people up without trial or due process, we warrantlessly wiretap phone calls and Internet traffic, we all have to take our shoes off, pour out our drinks, get fondled and ogled with grope-downs and porno-scanners at the airport, and we're still struggling to get enough people to turn their brains back on more than a decade later.

Thanks to Pearl Harbor, our nation had another moral panic dumbass attack and threw Japanese Americans into internment camps.

Then there was the Red Scare, Joe McCarthy, people called before the Un-American Activities Committee, thrown into jail, ruined careers, lives wrecked because people were in a moral panic over Communism.

And lesser panics have caused people to go apeshit and inflict authoritarian stupidity upon the comic books industry, rock music, role-playing games, etc. etc. etc.

After Columbine, people started harassing innocent kids because they wore trenchcoats, or were nerds that liked video games, or were bullied at school, or just didn't fit in.

And now we're on the cusp of another moral-panic-induced dumbass attack. Who's gonna be the scapegoat now? People in costume? Comic books? Violent movies? But the mad mommy brigade is screeching "WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN?! WE MUST DO SOMETHING!"

Do what? Attack people's civil liberties to make you feel better? Excuse me if I offend your beautiful mind by saying "Fuck that!"

I'm sorry, America needs to screw its gonads on and stand up for liberty when shit like this happens instead of cowering. Moral panics are fucking pathetic. I don't want to hear it. You scared? See a shrink and take a valium. Don't inflict your stupidity on me!

[AnotherMcIntosh]

14. x2. Well said.

[RadiationTherapy]

19. The Hegelian Dialectic is what you are talking about.

It may be used in the manner you are describing, but that is not its origin. That is the "Alex Jones/David Icke" description, though Jones knows it is the H.D. he is talking about.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectic#Hegelian_dialectic

Hegelian dialectic

Hegelian dialectic, usually presented in a threefold manner, was stated by Heinrich Moritz Chalybäus as comprising three dialectical stages of development: a thesis, giving rise to its reaction, an antithesis, which contradicts or negates the thesis, and the tension between the two being resolved by means of a synthesis. Although this model is often named after Hegel, he himself never used that specific formulation. Hegel ascribed that terminology to Kant.[28] Carrying on Kant's work, Fichte greatly elaborated on the synthesis model, and popularized it.

On the other hand, Hegel did use a three-valued logical model that is very similar to the antithesis model, but Hegel's most usual terms were: Abstract-Negative-Concrete. Hegel used this writing model as a backbone to accompany his points in many of his works.

The formula, thesis-antithesis-synthesis, does not explain why the thesis requires an Antithesis. However, the formula, abstract-negative-concrete, suggests a flaw in any initial thesis—it is too abstract and lacks the negative of trial, error and experience. For Hegel, the concrete, the synthesis, the absolute, must always pass through the phase of the negative, that is, mediation. This is the actual essence of what is popularly called Hegelian Dialectics.