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(1,151 posts)Hopefully well have a Dem speaker at that point. A girl can dream.
Stryst
(714 posts)in the 2018 house elections, they may want to pick a new speaker.
Her name will be Speaker Pelosi.
Chemisse
(30,813 posts)And just in time to take the helm after the impeachments.
I like the sound of that.
AllaN01Bear
(18,273 posts)would love to see rs heads explode .
Pluvious
(4,313 posts)We'd need to invent a new word to supplement the word apoplectic to describe the RW nuts.
But could we survive that many more months of the careening Orange Menace ??
Neema
(1,151 posts)We have only slogged through ten months and it feels like an eternity. Plus I would think the new members of the house would need to be sworn in before a new speaker could be named and then be third in line.
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)They call us snowflakes, and I'm "cool" with that (pardon the pun).
Snowflakes are beautiful, individual, and each unique. Sure, individually they are fragile, but when they get together they can shut down entire regions, bring down homes and structures, and completely clear the sides of entire mountains. When they work together they are beautiful, and powerful.
tRumpublicons, on the other hands are piss drips. Convenient reference to the Rumpus pass-time with Russian prostitutes.
There is nothing unique, special, or beautiful about them. They are foul, undesired, and no matter how much you try to shake them out, they still end up dripping down the side of your leg unwanted.
When a snowflake mixes into water, they bring life. When the piss drips get into water, they pollute and befoul it.
I am a proud snowflake.
They are foul piss drips.
DAMANgoldberg
(1,278 posts)Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)It also so proves the point of what I was saying
DAMANgoldberg
(1,278 posts)but there is a Chrome Extension named Pablo that allows selected text to be overlaid onto an image, theirs or yours. Then it can be socially shared (Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Pinterest), or you can Buffer (scheduled posts) plus download to a local machine or OneDrive/Google Drive/Dropbox.
populistdriven
(5,644 posts)citizen blues
(570 posts)As the current party leadership ages, they need to think about passing the baton. I would like to see someone up and coming take the speakership while Pelosi is still there to guide and mentor as an elder stateswoman.
PJMcK
(22,037 posts)Neema
(1,151 posts)Something's got to get us through this.
Obvious85
(259 posts)Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)azureblue
(2,148 posts)as a cover to ram through all the giveaways to the rich they can create. I believe that the sooner this gets resolved, the sooner we can expose and stop the GOP from stealing America blind. Which is their single purpose...
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)Alice11111
(5,730 posts)could become President. Half of the RWers might die from high BP or heart failure.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)Alice11111
(5,730 posts)maybe Nancy Pelosi could become Pres. I know it is about 3 pc chance, but that's what Dotard had.
Anyway, get rid of ad many of the diseased rat Repubs as possible ASAP. I'm not concerned with degrees of evil.
Smash them down.
Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)Lips at the thought of the line of succession.
Dont put it past the party of Inhumanity to help get the Cretin impeached once and if the tax reform gets though
Chemisse
(30,813 posts)Then they start the proceedings, and get Ryan in place before the midterms.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)likely, as their own connections and dirty laundry would come out in impeachment hearings or Senate Trial. There is a spider web🕸 of crime, cover ups and treason🦂🦂.
Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)Alice11111
(5,730 posts)and after I was a lawyer. I hope I don't sound didactic.
Unfortunately, we, lawyers or lay folks, have all just had this thrown in our laps to figure out. I like to watch the good legal scholars on CNN.
Vinca
(50,282 posts)Isn't there one woman on this earth who can accuse him of sexual impropriety? A blind woman perhaps.
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)peggysue2
(10,833 posts)Ryan has a bunch of rubles to explain away because the Republican Party was awash in Russian handouts.
Gee, I wonder why?????
Never to be forgotten or forgiven!
PSPS
(13,603 posts)FakeNoose
(32,656 posts)Ryan's another weasel we have to go to work on. The only lucky thing for him, he's so far down the list.
But we'll get to him, don't worry.
MelissaB
(16,420 posts)Fla Dem
(23,695 posts)If Trump is impeached and Pence is sworn in as president, Pence will get to appoint a VP. So even if Pence resigns or is impeached later, that new VP would then be next in line. Pretty sure that's how it would work.
Johnyawl
(3,205 posts)...That's sort of how it worked with Watergate. Agnew resigned, Nixon appointed Ford, then Nixon resigned.
tomp
(9,512 posts)...or does it require congressional approval? I would think the latter.
FakeNoose
(32,656 posts)In 1973 Richard Nixon and Spiro Agnew began their 2nd term as POTUS and VP, and the Watergate hearings had not yet begun. By the summer of '73 Agnew was forced to resign as Vice President because he was accused (later found guilty) of corruption charges when he was governor of Maryland (or maybe it was Delaware.) Nixon had to select someone to replace Agnew but he wanted it to somebody who didn't look so good that Congress would go ahead and start impeaching him (Nixon.) He chose Gerald Ford who was already Speaker of the House and rather popular as a Michigan representative but not seen as a possible replacement for Nixon.
As the Watergate hearings came into full swing and Nixon's guilt became more apparent, the appointment of Ford took on a great meaning. In 1974 we had Watergate hearings, Saturday night massacre, secret tapes, smoking gun, etc. etc. and Nixon resigns. Gerald Ford who was never elected Vice President, becomes President on August 9th 1974. A few weeks later he appoints Nelson Rockefeller former governor of New York as his Vice President. Rockefeller was approved by the Senate, and we had 2 men in the top positions neither of whom had been elected. It could have been a coup but it wasn't, only because the Republican Party was very different in 1974 than it is today. Other than finally ending the Vietnam conflict Ford can't really say he did much as President, but he was a nice guy and didn't break any laws while in the White House.
If the same thing were to happen in 2018, probably we'd dispense with the Constitutional formalities and Vladmiir Putin would just fly into Washington and be sworn in as our next President.
Just sayin'
tclambert
(11,087 posts)and ended the idea that "In America, no one is above the law." They used to teach that to kids in elementary school. I mentioned this to a current teacher and he said, "No, we never tell students that anymore."
Johnyawl
(3,205 posts)The Paris Peace Accords were signed in January 1973 by Nixon. The US suspended all offensive operations, and began the withdrawal of all non-Vietnamese military from Vietnam. By August of 1973 95% of US forces had left the country.
Nixon resigned and Ford became President in August of 1974.
The North Vietnamese launched their final offensive in early 1975. This was a battle between the North Vietnamese and South Vietnamese. There were no US forces involved in the fighting. The Democratic controlled Congress blocked any increase in assistance to the South, including the use of US airpower that Nixon had promised the Saigon government. Saigon fell.
The US combat participation in the Vietnam conflict ended under Nixon. The conflict between Hanoi and Saigon ended while Ford was president, but Ford played no role in it.
Ford only did two things that are worth noting. He pardoned Nixon. And he offered conditional amnesty to Vietnam era draft dodgers. (Carter would later remove all the conditions, although some individuals were still excluded from the blanket pardon).
You're right, he was a nice guy and didn't do much other than have a very decent wife that the country pretty much adored.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Peace_Accords
GreenEyedLefty
(2,073 posts)I was set right on this by another DUer.
FakeNoose
(32,656 posts)I never said that the appointments weren't subject to Congressional approval. They always are.
rainin
(3,011 posts)I hope Mueller's team is looking at every financial transaction of his and McConnell's!
Amaryllis
(9,525 posts)MelissaB
(16,420 posts)dflprincess
(28,079 posts)He's an asshole but he probably wouldn't run in 2020 and, if he had to worry about his "presidential legacy" he might decide to be slightly less of an asshole.
George II
(67,782 posts)....and they'll be out of office in 2020.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Ryan knew all along. Remember Kevin McCarthy's comment about Rohrabacher and Dotard being in Putin's pocket, and Ryan swore everyone to secrecy? No leaking!
The only way this would happen is if Mueller only goes halfway or decides to prosecute the big fish first. I just don't see this happening at all.
Oneironaut
(5,505 posts)Even a cracked bulb like Drumpf must know that Ryan is itching to leap out of the bushes bite him in the ass.
DangerousUrNot
(431 posts)I wouldnt put it pass Paul Ryan.
Shoonra
(523 posts)Whoever has to pick up the pieces after Trump is done in the White House will need extraordinary talent and a few miracles to get America healthy again. It may take more than four years to repair the damage that Trump has done in less than one year.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)oasis
(49,393 posts)Juliusseizure
(562 posts)I think we assume his expected attempts to fire Mueller and/or not do something else that endangers democracy and the lives of millions will be quickly addressed.
The attempt itself will bring about a constitutional crisis dramatically more dangerous than during Nixon - because the partisan atmosphere and GOP corruption is much more toxic.
Trump also has millions of rabid dog supporters who would follow his calls for action, whatever they are. He's also commander in chief.
Pence, Ryan follow political norms. They wil leave if voted out. Democracy will be sustained. As long as we have democracy, wrongs can be fixed. Trump is a direct threat to democracy. I don't understand why or how people could want to keep Trump. Its going to be hell to get him out.
still_one
(92,250 posts)7962
(11,841 posts)and if he did, I bet there would be time for Pence to take office with Haley as HIS VP.
malthaussen
(17,205 posts)... Mr Ryan may not be Speaker then. In any event, his first personal priority must be to try to keep the House in 2018. Then impeachment may be a more attractive proposition.
Somehow, the expression "By hook or by crook" occurs to me in re Mr Ryan's Presidential ambitions.
-- Mal
niyad
(113,413 posts)they are all complicit, corrupt, contemptible, catastrophic.