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jpak

(41,758 posts)
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 05:42 PM Dec 2017

Trumps campaign: Big Macs, screaming fits and constant rivalries

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-campaign-big-macs-screaming-fits-and-constant-rivalries/2017/12/02/18bcfa30-d6bd-11e7-b62d-d9345ced896d_story.html?utm_term=.072737479ea9

Elton John blares so loudly on Donald Trump’s campaign plane that staffers can’t hear themselves think. Press secretary Hope Hicks uses a steamer to press Trump’s pants — while he is still wearing them. Trump screams at his top aides, who are subjected to ­expletive-filled tirades in which they get their “face ripped off.”

And Trump’s appetite seems to know no bounds when it comes to McDonald’s, with a dinner order consisting of “two Big Macs, two Fillet-O-Fish, and a chocolate malted.”

The scenes are among the most surreal passages in a forthcoming book chronicling Trump’s path to the presidency co-written by Corey Lewandowski, who was fired as Trump’s campaign manager, and David Bossie, another top aide. The book, “Let Trump Be Trump,” paints a portrait of a campaign with an untested candidate and staff rocketing from crisis to crisis, in which Lewandowski and a cast of mostly neophyte political aides learn on the fly and ultimately accept Trump’s propensity to go angrily off message.

“Sooner or later, everybody who works for Donald Trump will see a side of him that makes you wonder why you took a job with him in the first place,” the authors wrote. “His wrath is never intended as any personal offense, but sometimes it can be hard not to take it that way. The mode that he switches into when things aren’t going his way can feel like an all-out assault; it’d break most hardened men and women into little pieces.”

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dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
1. He claims not to use adictive substances, but acts as if he is.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 07:42 PM
Dec 2017

In alcoholism there is a term "King Baby"...has these characteristics:

exaggerated or rigidly held sense of entitlement,
self-obsession,
vanity,
arrogant,
greed,
grandiosity,
superiority,
self –sufficiency ..( I don't need anybody)
and rage.

sobering up does not remove these traits but practicing recovery steps can.

In Trump's case, he reminds me of a dry drunk.

his brother died of addiction. addiction is almost always a family pattern.
Wonder what his grandfather was like?
Did Trump's father drink but we don't know of it?

In any case, nothing is gonna change at this point.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
3. Bottom line, emotional growth is stunted at a very early level.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 08:03 PM
Dec 2017

Actually, tis rather scary to think of what would happen if he were more adept at hiding his dark side.

Irish_Dem

(47,140 posts)
6. Yes he functions at a very primitive level. Yes if he were smart he would be more dangerous.nt
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 08:50 PM
Dec 2017

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janx

(24,128 posts)
4. He's on something.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 08:16 PM
Dec 2017

I have often entertained the idea of making a post that that effect. It does seem like dry drunk behavior, but there's no evidence.

He wouldn't be the first president to use a drug or drugs (including alcohol).

I've hesitated to post about this because I'm not into pop psychology or some amateur internet diagnosis.

But he's on something. The swings from euphoria at times to his bitter a.m. Twitter rants are fairly obvious.

Irish_Dem

(47,140 posts)
9. I think they might have him on the military go and no go drugs.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 10:11 PM
Dec 2017

Uppers to stay awake, downers to go to sleep.

Irish_Dem

(47,140 posts)
15. Good point, but he does seem worse than when he was campaigning....
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 09:33 AM
Dec 2017

Perhaps he was using other sorts of drugs on the campaign?

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
13. The only thing I know about
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 11:19 PM
Dec 2017

are reports from some time ago that the weird doctor had been giving him "diet pills" for some time.
There is the fact that many report he only sleeps a few hours at night, but contrary to that is the fact he has gained a lot weight from pigging out on junk food at all hours.

Bi-polar would be one explanation, but those swings are generally one or the other mood for days at a time.

cocaine?

Gonna be a LOT of tell all books when this is said and done.

janx

(24,128 posts)
14. Cocaine was one of my guesses--I kid you not.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 11:36 PM
Dec 2017

Think drug hangover.

But the most logical guess at this point would be a prescription drug.

The dude is on something. It's terrible.

Irish_Dem

(47,140 posts)
16. Diagnoses
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 09:47 AM
Dec 2017

Yes I recall now that I read reports about the diet pills, which are typically some sort of amphetamine or also called on the street as "speed." This could certainly account for some of the behaviors we see, the grandiosity, the lack of sleep, anger outbursts, and in advanced stages paranoia and psychosis. If he had been taking them for a long time then he has a tolerance to the drug and no longer has the lack of appetite side effect which is why he went on them in the first place.

I thought of Bipolar as well. He does display those symptoms. And he could be rapid cycling and have the mood shifts in hours or days. Especially if he is taking amphetamines in addition to Bipolar.

Cocaine is a stimulant and could give him the highs, the grandiosity, also agitation and detachment from reality.

Also I was thinking about an Impulse Control Disorder which can include addictions to alcohol or drugs, eating disorders, compulsive gambling (his constant business deals are like gambling and he loses a lot but keeps doing it), paraphilias sexual fantasies and behaviors, humiliation or others, and intermittent explosive attacks of rage.

And we know he has the personality disorders and we are wondering about a dementia.

He is a complex clinical presentation

janx

(24,128 posts)
5. This article is a promo for Corey Lewandowski's book.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 08:20 PM
Dec 2017

The details here sound juicy, but it seems that Corey (and his ghost writer) provide just enough of these to entice those who love gossip.

"His wrath is never intended as any personal offense..." tells me that this is just more apology for the madman who currently happens to be president.

It's sickening in its excuses.

Willie Pep

(841 posts)
8. I sometimes wonder if Trump even wants to be president.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 09:40 PM
Dec 2017

I still think that the Trump campaign was originally designed to promote his own cable news network. I don't think Trump expected to win at first but he didn't realize how easily he could manipulate the Republican base and then he decided to just go with it for egotistical reasons.

janx

(24,128 posts)
12. That is because they see nothing seriously wrong with his behavior
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 11:01 PM
Dec 2017

and the way he lives. It's their culture, unfortunately.

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