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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrumps campaign: Big Macs, screaming fits and constant rivalries
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-campaign-big-macs-screaming-fits-and-constant-rivalries/2017/12/02/18bcfa30-d6bd-11e7-b62d-d9345ced896d_story.html?utm_term=.072737479ea9Elton John blares so loudly on Donald Trumps campaign plane that staffers cant hear themselves think. Press secretary Hope Hicks uses a steamer to press Trumps pants while he is still wearing them. Trump screams at his top aides, who are subjected to expletive-filled tirades in which they get their face ripped off.
And Trumps appetite seems to know no bounds when it comes to McDonalds, with a dinner order consisting of two Big Macs, two Fillet-O-Fish, and a chocolate malted.
The scenes are among the most surreal passages in a forthcoming book chronicling Trumps path to the presidency co-written by Corey Lewandowski, who was fired as Trumps campaign manager, and David Bossie, another top aide. The book, Let Trump Be Trump, paints a portrait of a campaign with an untested candidate and staff rocketing from crisis to crisis, in which Lewandowski and a cast of mostly neophyte political aides learn on the fly and ultimately accept Trumps propensity to go angrily off message.
Sooner or later, everybody who works for Donald Trump will see a side of him that makes you wonder why you took a job with him in the first place, the authors wrote. His wrath is never intended as any personal offense, but sometimes it can be hard not to take it that way. The mode that he switches into when things arent going his way can feel like an all-out assault; itd break most hardened men and women into little pieces.
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dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)In alcoholism there is a term "King Baby"...has these characteristics:
exaggerated or rigidly held sense of entitlement,
self-obsession,
vanity,
arrogant,
greed,
grandiosity,
superiority,
self sufficiency ..( I don't need anybody)
and rage.
sobering up does not remove these traits but practicing recovery steps can.
In Trump's case, he reminds me of a dry drunk.
his brother died of addiction. addiction is almost always a family pattern.
Wonder what his grandfather was like?
Did Trump's father drink but we don't know of it?
In any case, nothing is gonna change at this point.
Irish_Dem
(47,140 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Actually, tis rather scary to think of what would happen if he were more adept at hiding his dark side.
Irish_Dem
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janx
(24,128 posts)I have often entertained the idea of making a post that that effect. It does seem like dry drunk behavior, but there's no evidence.
He wouldn't be the first president to use a drug or drugs (including alcohol).
I've hesitated to post about this because I'm not into pop psychology or some amateur internet diagnosis.
But he's on something. The swings from euphoria at times to his bitter a.m. Twitter rants are fairly obvious.
Irish_Dem
(47,140 posts)Uppers to stay awake, downers to go to sleep.
janx
(24,128 posts)except he was like this during his campaign. Was it happening then?
Irish_Dem
(47,140 posts)Perhaps he was using other sorts of drugs on the campaign?
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)are reports from some time ago that the weird doctor had been giving him "diet pills" for some time.
There is the fact that many report he only sleeps a few hours at night, but contrary to that is the fact he has gained a lot weight from pigging out on junk food at all hours.
Bi-polar would be one explanation, but those swings are generally one or the other mood for days at a time.
cocaine?
Gonna be a LOT of tell all books when this is said and done.
janx
(24,128 posts)Think drug hangover.
But the most logical guess at this point would be a prescription drug.
The dude is on something. It's terrible.
Irish_Dem
(47,140 posts)Yes I recall now that I read reports about the diet pills, which are typically some sort of amphetamine or also called on the street as "speed." This could certainly account for some of the behaviors we see, the grandiosity, the lack of sleep, anger outbursts, and in advanced stages paranoia and psychosis. If he had been taking them for a long time then he has a tolerance to the drug and no longer has the lack of appetite side effect which is why he went on them in the first place.
I thought of Bipolar as well. He does display those symptoms. And he could be rapid cycling and have the mood shifts in hours or days. Especially if he is taking amphetamines in addition to Bipolar.
Cocaine is a stimulant and could give him the highs, the grandiosity, also agitation and detachment from reality.
Also I was thinking about an Impulse Control Disorder which can include addictions to alcohol or drugs, eating disorders, compulsive gambling (his constant business deals are like gambling and he loses a lot but keeps doing it), paraphilias sexual fantasies and behaviors, humiliation or others, and intermittent explosive attacks of rage.
And we know he has the personality disorders and we are wondering about a dementia.
He is a complex clinical presentation
janx
(24,128 posts)The details here sound juicy, but it seems that Corey (and his ghost writer) provide just enough of these to entice those who love gossip.
"His wrath is never intended as any personal offense..." tells me that this is just more apology for the madman who currently happens to be president.
It's sickening in its excuses.
Initech
(100,083 posts)Willie Pep
(841 posts)I still think that the Trump campaign was originally designed to promote his own cable news network. I don't think Trump expected to win at first but he didn't realize how easily he could manipulate the Republican base and then he decided to just go with it for egotistical reasons.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)And he STILL comes off like an asshole.
janx
(24,128 posts)and the way he lives. It's their culture, unfortunately.