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sheshe2

(83,793 posts)
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 03:52 PM Dec 2017

THIS IS WHY THE DEPLORABLES WILL NEVER TURN AGAINST TRUMP

If you want to know why Donald Trump retains the loyalty of his voter base, take a look at one anecdote from a new book co-authored by Corey Lewandowski, Trump's first campaign manager. The Washington Post reports:

In a section of the book written by Lewandowski, Trump is described as flying on his helicopter when he learns that [Paul] Manafort [Lewandowski's successor] has said “Trump shouldn’t be on television anymore, that he shouldn’t be on the Sunday shows” and that Manafort should appear instead. Trump was angrier than Lewandowski had ever seen him, ordering the pilot to lower the altitude so he could make a cellphone call.

“Did you say I shouldn’t be on TV on Sunday? I’ll go on TV anytime I g--dam f---ing want and you won’t say another f---ing word about me!” Trump yelled at Manafort, according to Lewandowski. “Tone it down? I wanna turn it up! ... You’re a political pro? Let me tell you something. I’m a pro at life. I’ve been around a time or two. I know guys like you, with your hair and skin...”


It's the last bit that really explains Trump's appeal to America's white resentniks.

You’re a political pro? Let me tell you something. I’m a pro at life. I’ve been around a time or two.

That's the sound of every blue-collar guy who's ever expressed contempt for someone with a college education.

I know guys like you, with your hair and skin...

And that's class resentment bred of insecurity.

Read More:http://nomoremister.blogspot.com/2017/12/this-is-why-deplorables-will-never-turn.html
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THIS IS WHY THE DEPLORABLES WILL NEVER TURN AGAINST TRUMP (Original Post) sheshe2 Dec 2017 OP
IMO my wife pegged it early on Orrex Dec 2017 #1
Your wife did indeed 'peg it.' sheshe2 Dec 2017 #2
I got that! PJMcK Dec 2017 #39
We all did. Rainbow Droid Dec 2017 #40
Yet only you and I commented! PJMcK Dec 2017 #41
Brilliant analysis. volstork Dec 2017 #16
yep grantcart Dec 2017 #19
It took me a second read to understand it, but that is a brilliant observation. Thor_MN Dec 2017 #25
I've seen and heard too many of 'em confirm this. calimary Dec 2017 #27
Yes she hit the nail on the head there. I really cannot figure how we can fight against that. Tipperary Dec 2017 #29
I have never heard it expressed so succinctly rock Dec 2017 #32
Yep. Solly Mack Dec 2017 #46
He's their ID and he's a straight asshole to boot uponit7771 Dec 2017 #47
The dreams and desires of the DEPLORABLES.... magicarpet Dec 2017 #3
Wow..That's an interesting account. whathehell Dec 2017 #4
Isn't Manafort quite swarthy compared to Trump? It's interesting that even people that hate him bettyellen Dec 2017 #11
He pretends to be someone he is not. sheshe2 Dec 2017 #13
It sounded like jealous rage and envy to me. KY_EnviroGuy Dec 2017 #24
"guys like you, with your hair and skin"? Ken Burch Dec 2017 #5
That's not what he meant. NurseJackie Dec 2017 #7
Like an orange peel MFM008 Dec 2017 #15
like a treasure troll doll IronLionZion Dec 2017 #20
Exactly. catbyte Dec 2017 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Dec 2017 #30
This is very much what W did ProudLib72 Dec 2017 #6
Here is Paul Manafort... smirkymonkey Dec 2017 #8
Ya know you can have those posts blocked Duppers Dec 2017 #36
Well, I'd certainly take the hair. Seeing as most of mine is GONE. 7962 Dec 2017 #42
SKIN AND HAIR? raging moderate Dec 2017 #9
Dolt45 is envious. He has to resort to advanced engineer to appear like he has hair. Thor_MN Dec 2017 #28
Tribal mentality. Any outsider speaking against him is a mortal enemy Roland99 Dec 2017 #10
That's it. Duppers Dec 2017 #38
Archie Bunker with a personality disorder... Sancho Dec 2017 #12
Well he did during the campaign... sheshe2 Dec 2017 #14
I don't believe that happen. That's really just propaganda. rockfordfile Dec 2017 #17
You know what? llmart Dec 2017 #18
Absolutely right. All this amplification of "stupid" is not doing us any good. gtar100 Dec 2017 #35
It seems that the white race of deplorables want to be ruled by the orange race. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2017 #21
Resentniks! OMG! That's FABULOUS!!!!! calimary Dec 2017 #22
Yep. sheshe2 Dec 2017 #23
Maybe so, but they are starting to get wind of that gawd awful Iliyah Dec 2017 #26
Oh do tell. nolabear Dec 2017 #31
I would love to know where you are seeing this information. Ferrets are Cool Dec 2017 #34
What this regime has shown me is just how racist this country "really" is.... Ferrets are Cool Dec 2017 #33
Deplorables are very stupid people which is why they vote for trump Gothmog Dec 2017 #37
"I know guys like you, with your hair and skin... " ThoughtCriminal Dec 2017 #43
deplorables lack morals and ethics pretty much, so trump is their man but beachbum bob Dec 2017 #45
Don't forget xenophobia, racism and bigotry. Vinnie From Indy Dec 2017 #48

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
1. IMO my wife pegged it early on
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 03:55 PM
Dec 2017

"He's not afraid to say what they think," she noted.

For my money, that's about the most succinct rendering of Trump's appeal (such as it is), and it's why the serfs continue to worship him.

He says the hateful, bigoted, ignorant, racist, misogynistic bullshit that's been percolating in their dull brains for years or decades, and in so doing he turns them from slack-jawed dumbasses to shareholders in the office of the president.

At least, that's how the idiot racist fuckheads see it. Trump doesn't give a shit about any of them.



calimary

(81,325 posts)
27. I've seen and heard too many of 'em confirm this.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 05:32 PM
Dec 2017

"He tells it like it IS."

"He talks just like the guys at the bar."

"He talks like the average Joe."

I have heard that from so many reports featuring, and quoting, focus groups and man-on-the-street Q&As. Over and over. And I find myself thinking - "so you think one of those 'guys at the bar' is fit to be President? Would you really want one of THEM running the country? You'd be okay with that? Seriously?"

Then why not put Archie Bunker in a tanning booth and a suit, and then trotting him out as a candidate? That's about their speed, 'eh?

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
29. Yes she hit the nail on the head there. I really cannot figure how we can fight against that.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 05:35 PM
Dec 2017

Pure ignorance, combined with racism and everything else you named. It is so sickening to me. I have heard more racist and misogynistic comments in the last year than in all my life. It is just so disheartening.

magicarpet

(14,155 posts)
3. The dreams and desires of the DEPLORABLES....
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 04:21 PM
Dec 2017

..... are tr-dump's daily playbook that he constantly acts out on a daily basis.

His crude and rude behavior are the personification of a testosterone driven macho male hyped up on steroids and unleashed to bully and insult anyone who is foolish enough cross tr-dump's path.

Nobody, I mean NOBODY, stands in or shares the lime light or spot light with "The Donald" - nobody could possibly compare or be equal to his greatness or worth.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
4. Wow..That's an interesting account.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 04:22 PM
Dec 2017

[but there's some things I don't understand: That "hair and skin" comment seems very odd to me -- I can't understand what the "hair and skin" of Paul Manafort would mean to Trump, and here's why:

Paul Manafort is as white as Trump and probably just as rich..As far as I know, both come from similar backgrounds, and In addition, both were quite good looking in their younger years -- Manafort has clearly retained more of his looks than Trump, butTrump started out every bit as handsome as Manafort, and retained much of it, even as recently as, say, 10, 15 years ago, so I'm not getting
some big "chasm" between them that would make a basis for serious "envy" or whatever from Trump. In terms of hair and skin" or much of anything else. That said, you seem to see something I don't, so I'm very interested in your thoughts.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
11. Isn't Manafort quite swarthy compared to Trump? It's interesting that even people that hate him
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 04:44 PM
Dec 2017

Miss the implicit sexism and racism that underpins al of his thinking. You know he thinks he has superior German genes?

sheshe2

(83,793 posts)
13. He pretends to be someone he is not.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 04:54 PM
Dec 2017

I think even he believes his own BS of having pulled himself up and became this great businessman all on his own. He became buffed and polished...the 'envy' of his 'adoring' fans. All on his own, which is a lie.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
24. It sounded like jealous rage and envy to me.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 05:29 PM
Dec 2017

Manafort seems to have nicely toned skin and thick hair, whereas tRump has to be made up and has very thin hair.

Not acceptable that anyone look better than King Trump, eh?


Response to Ken Burch (Reply #5)

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
6. This is very much what W did
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 04:28 PM
Dec 2017

Years ago, when I would start discussing "rhetoric" in my English composition classes, I would ask my students how W managed to gain the support of the poor and lower middle classes. It was because he assumed the role of an average Joe, someone you could sit down and drink beer with. Never mind the fact that he was from a millionaire family, had gone to ivy league schools, and had basically lived a charmed life as a New England elite. His projected image of a good old boy from Texas convinced a lot of people that he was just like them.

tRump has managed to cultivate a similar image, one in which he built himself a real estate empire from the ground up with his own two hands. Of course this image is totally misleading, but the low information voters follow charismatic personalities rather than check backgrounds.

Remember in the months immediately after the election there were dozens of posts about "elitism" in the Democratic Party? Now how do you suppose Dems get stuck with that label when the GOP is truly the party of the elite? It's through the continuation of the narrative. Or rather, adding new narratives like this one, so that the GOP is represented by salt of the earth types who stand up to the elites.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
8. Here is Paul Manafort...
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 04:33 PM
Dec 2017


I don't find him attractive, but compared to Trump, he's an Adonis. At least his hair and skin are remarkable superior to Trump's so I really don't know what the Dotard is talking about.

As far as the other point of your post goes, I would agree with you. I saw a post on Pinterest today that said "I am proud to be everything that the Liberals hate." That just pretty much summed it up for me. They stand for nothing positive, they hate us and as long as they can make us furious, they consider that a win. They are very sick and very stupid.

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
36. Ya know you can have those posts blocked
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 06:11 PM
Dec 2017

On P-gop-interest. I do all the time.


Their posts are emotional with no critical thinking whatsoever.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
42. Well, I'd certainly take the hair. Seeing as most of mine is GONE.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 06:32 PM
Dec 2017

As for the skin, I've also got Vitiligo, so I'd probably take that too!

But I damn sure wouldn't want TRUMPS

raging moderate

(4,306 posts)
9. SKIN AND HAIR?
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 04:37 PM
Dec 2017

What about Trump's own skin and hair? Talk about clear signs of a life spent being pampered in the lap of luxury! Class resentment, my eye! He and his followers all exude the smoldering resentment and bursts of hot rage which come from the predator deprived of what it believes is its rightful prey.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
28. Dolt45 is envious. He has to resort to advanced engineer to appear like he has hair.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 05:34 PM
Dec 2017

And if weren't for spray tan and makeup, he would look like the overweight septuagenarian that has been too hard that he is.

Sancho

(9,070 posts)
12. Archie Bunker with a personality disorder...
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 04:44 PM
Dec 2017

...who only became President because of treasonous repubs and Russian manipulation.

tRump is perfect for Fox fans who want to rationalize their racist values.

Let's just hope he continues to eat blue collar dinners with 2000 calories and lots of salt and fat.

sheshe2

(83,793 posts)
14. Well he did during the campaign...
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 05:01 PM
Dec 2017
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-campaign-big-macs-screaming-fits-and-constant-rivalries/2017/12/02/18bcfa30-d6bd-11e7-b62d-d9345ced896d_story.html?utm_term=.61d034d0e806

And Trump’s appetite seems to know no bounds when it comes to McDonald’s, with a dinner order consisting of “two Big Macs, two Fillet-O-Fish, and a chocolate malted.”

snip//

Trump’s fast-food diet is a theme. “On Trump Force One there were four major food groups: McDonald’s, Kentucky Fried Chicken, pizza and Diet Coke,” the authors write.

The plane’s cupboards were stacked with Vienna Fingers, potato chips, pretzels and many packages of Oreos because Trump, a renowned germaphobe, would not eat from a previously opened package.

The book notes that “the orchestrating and timing of Mr. Trump’s meals was as important as any other aspect of his march to the presidency,” and it describes the elaborate efforts that Lewandowski and other top aides went through to carefully time their delivery of hot fast food to Trump’s plane as he was departing his rallies.

....................................

I hope he keeps it up! Bon Appetit, Donnie.

llmart

(15,540 posts)
18. You know what?
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 05:10 PM
Dec 2017

I don't give a rat's ass about the Deplorables. I don't care what makes them tick. I don't care to analyze why they are loyal to the Dump. They are a minority. I'm tired of people analyzing their every thought, of which they have very few worth knowing. I refuse to apology for my intellectualism and education. This country does NOT need deplorables to survive. We need to marginalize them.

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
35. Absolutely right. All this amplification of "stupid" is not doing us any good.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 06:05 PM
Dec 2017

How do you work with people who think ignorance is a virtue?

calimary

(81,325 posts)
22. Resentniks! OMG! That's FABULOUS!!!!!
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 05:26 PM
Dec 2017

That is a World-Class framing! A Magnificent Meme!

That's even better and more definitionally perfect than even "Deplorables."

"Resentniks," or "White Resentniks" - either one works!

I am SOOOOOOO stealing this!

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
26. Maybe so, but they are starting to get wind of that gawd awful
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 05:32 PM
Dec 2017

tax reform bill and they ain't liking it one bit.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,107 posts)
33. What this regime has shown me is just how racist this country "really" is....
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 05:41 PM
Dec 2017

I knew there were pockets of racism all throughout America, but never did I believe, until now, that it was this widespread.
So much so that we have this dipshit that can say whatever he wants to say and get away with it.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
45. deplorables lack morals and ethics pretty much, so trump is their man but
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 07:11 PM
Dec 2017

hey, they are only 35% and I 'll take a 35% minority any time but democrats HAVE TO GET OFF THEIR ASSES...its time to stop minority bat shit crazy

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