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TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 02:29 PM Dec 2017

Kenneth Starr vs. Robert Mueller - One Was A Career Prosecutor. One Was a Lifelong Hack

You will see a lot of comparisons between the Ken Starr's $60 million probe of Bill Clinton, which started with an investigation of an old real estate deal and ended with a focus on an extramarital affair, and Bob Mueller's current investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 election and collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians. On its face, one investigation has an attenuated relationship with the Presidency, and one has everything to do with who is President.

Still, it is interesting how there is no comparison between who was selected to lead the investigation into Bill Clinton versus who leading the investigation into Trump.

Ken Starr was not a career prosecutor. He was a lifelong partisan. After graduating from law school and clerking, Ken Starr began work at the large law firm Gibson, Dunn, & Crutcher in 1977. After serving on President Reagan's transition team, Judge Starr served as counselor to Attorney General William French Smith from 1981 to 1983. In 1983, at age 37, President Reagan nominated him to serve as a judge on the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia, and he was confirmed by the Senate in a move reminiscent of Trump's current efforts to pack the courts with your right wing activists with little practical legal experience. Judge Starr served on the DC Circuit until 1989, when President Bush nominated him to be the solicitor general of the United States. As solicitor general, Judge Starr was responsible for representing the United States before the Supreme Court. Notably, Starr was a Republican who investigated a Democratic President.

Bob Mueller, went to the University of Virginia Law School where he served on the Law Review and earned his J.D. in 1973. Unable to achieve his initial goal of a position with the United States Attorney's office, Mueller joined the San Francisco firm of Pillsbury, Madison & Sutro out of law school. He fulfilled that goal by becoming assistant U.S. attorney for the District of Northern California in 1976, rising to chief of its criminal division in 1981. Mueller then moved east to become assistant U.S. attorney for the District of Massachusetts in 1982, and served as the district's acting attorney from 1986 to '87.

Following a year at the Boston firm of Hill and Barlow, Mueller joined the U.S. Department of Justice in 1989 to spearhead the prosecution of Panamanian dictator Manuel Noriega. He took charge of the DOJ's criminal division in 1990, where he oversaw the Lockerbie bombing case and formed the agency's first cyber-dedicated unit.

Mueller returned to private practice in 1993 as a partner at Hale and Dorr (later known as WilmerHale). However, unable to get prosecution out of his blood, he took on a lower-level job in the homicide division of the U.S. Attorney's Office for the District of Columbia in 1995, soon rising to the post of homicide chief. He resumed a more orthodox career path as U.S. attorney for the Northern District of California from 1998 to early 2001, before serving as acting deputy attorney general for the new George W. Bush administration.

In July 2001, President Bush nominated Mueller to replace outgoing FBI Director Louis Freeh. Unanimously approved by the Senate, Mueller officially took his post as the sixth FBI director on September 4, 2001, just one week before the September 11 terrorist attacks. In the following months, Mueller acknowledged that the attacks might have been prevented had FBI headquarters followed through on tips from field offices. He then set about dramatically reorganizing the bureau, uprooting its domestic crime-fighting culture to install a high-tech global operation designed to head off terrorist threats.

The director pressed for expanded surveillance powers, but he also nearly quit over what he viewed as abuse of that power. In 2004, after Attorney General John Ashcroft was hospitalized, Bush administration officials attempted to override acting Attorney General James Comey to gain an extension for an illegal wiretapping program. Mueller, Ashcroft and Comey all intended to resign, before cooling down when a compromise was reached.

Lauded for his success in modernizing the FBI, Mueller in 2011 accepted President Barack Obama's offer to remain an additional two years in his post, and again was confirmed unanimously by the Senate. Finally, Mueller was a Republican who is investigating a Republican President in Donald Trump.

The point is that Starr made his career through political appointments, seeking out highly political positions such as Presidential transition teams, Senate committees, and gaining a judgeship as a RW idealogue. In short, Starr specialized in catering to right wing Republicans. Mueller, on the other hand, was a career-long front-line prosecutor. The difference between the two is that Starr was trying to achieve a political goal of hobbling Clinton even if that meant turning an extramartial affair into an impeachable offense. Mueller is trying to prosecute a high profile crime involving the circumvention of the U.S. political system with the assistance of a hostile foreign government.




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Kenneth Starr vs. Robert Mueller - One Was A Career Prosecutor. One Was a Lifelong Hack (Original Post) TomCADem Dec 2017 OP
We shall see Cary Dec 2017 #1
Also, Starr spent 4 years investigating a consensual blow job. Mueller, in 7 months, seems to have Squinch Dec 2017 #2
Starr Was Never a Line Prosecutor. He Was a Political Climber TomCADem Dec 2017 #5
The sanctimonious hypocrite ignored sexual assault involving his football team: dalton99a Dec 2017 #3
Ken Starr is a political hack Gothmog Dec 2017 #4
Many forgot that Starr attempted to quit the independent counsel in 1997 Jon Fogerty Dec 2017 #6

Squinch

(50,956 posts)
2. Also, Starr spent 4 years investigating a consensual blow job. Mueller, in 7 months, seems to have
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 04:35 PM
Dec 2017

gotten pretty far on a case in which a President elect and everyone around him sold our country to a hostile foreign power.

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
5. Starr Was Never a Line Prosecutor. He Was a Political Climber
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 06:23 PM
Dec 2017

Think of Ted Cruz who is rewarded for playing the role of pure right wing conservative with a pedigree. Mueller was smart, but he got his hands dirty working up the ranks as a prosecutor who often left lucrative private jobs to go back to the role of prosecutor. One is in it for the ambition, the other is in it for the mission.

dalton99a

(81,527 posts)
3. The sanctimonious hypocrite ignored sexual assault involving his football team:
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 04:42 PM
Dec 2017
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/20/us/ken-starr-resigns-as-professor-cutting-last-tie-to-baylor-university.html
Ken Starr Leaves Baylor After Complaints It Mishandled Sex Assault Inquiry
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS | AUG. 19, 2016

Mr. Starr, 70, an ex-prosecutor best known nationally for zealously pursuing charges against President Bill Clinton over his affair with Monica Lewinsky, had in more recent years been a high-profile face of Baylor. But he lost his job as president in May and later stepped down as chancellor amid allegations that the university had mishandled several cases in which football players were accused of attacking women.

Baylor, the nation’s largest Baptist university, said in a joint statement issued with Mr. Starr that he would be “leaving his faculty status and tenure” with the law school in a separation that was mutually agreed upon.

Last year, Mr. Starr ordered an investigation by the Pepper Hamilton law firm into Baylor’s handling of sexual assault cases, after months in which he stayed mostly silent on the issue. Mr. Starr took over as the university’s president in 2010, about a decade after he investigated Mr. Clinton’s relationship with Ms. Lewinsky, a White House intern.

Mr. Starr was demoted from all but the law school professorship after Pepper Hamilton’s scathing 13-page summary report found that Baylor, under his leadership, had done little to respond to accusations of sexual assault involving football players.


Jon Fogerty

(45 posts)
6. Many forgot that Starr attempted to quit the independent counsel in 1997
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 06:32 PM
Dec 2017

He knew he had nothing on Clinton and he was going leave the special counsel to be Dean of Law at Pepperdine, but Republican's beg/pressured him to stay.

Starr Will Leave Whitewater Post to Join Pepperdine
http://articles.latimes.com/1997-02-18/news/mn-29929_1_pepperdine-university

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