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louis c

(8,652 posts)
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 10:43 AM Dec 2017

Trump Gallup Job Approval Approaches Minus 30

Yesterday, the Gallup Daily Tracking Poll placed the Moron in Chief's job approval rating at 33% and his disapproval rating at 62%, that's a minus 29% and an all time low for Trump for this polling company. To put that in perspective, president Richard Nixon was in the mid-twenties in approval just a few weeks before he resigned.

There are those of you who may say (and my Trump supporting friends always like to recite) that you can't believe polls because of the results of the 2016 General Election. National polls are not the Electoral College and those polls had Hillary ahead by 2 or 3 points just before the election. I remind you that they were accurate in the final vote, and even if they were off a point or two, it certainly wasn't 29.

Link:
http://news.gallup.com/poll/201617/gallup-daily-trump-job-approval.aspx

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Trump Gallup Job Approval Approaches Minus 30 (Original Post) louis c Dec 2017 OP
Some cant comprehend that the polls werent DangerousUrNot Dec 2017 #1
if they get low enough, the polls do matter. unblock Dec 2017 #4
How low can the POS go? Let's do the Limbo! MoonRiver Dec 2017 #2
So Trump has further ruined the Republican brand & they got their giveaway to millionaires Chasstev365 Dec 2017 #3
One thing that people don't mention about these approval polls is ... Yonnie3 Dec 2017 #5
Maybe this link can help you louis c Dec 2017 #6
I am well aware of these stats. Yonnie3 Dec 2017 #8
No shiting louis c Dec 2017 #9
With all polls he's running an average of about titaniumsalute Dec 2017 #7

DangerousUrNot

(431 posts)
1. Some cant comprehend that the polls werent
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 10:58 AM
Dec 2017

referring to the electoral college. The polls were accurate. I think Trump is stubborn and no matter what his polls numbers are, he will remain in office. I think the only way he will leave is through Mueller. Either Mueller will provide enough evidence for congress to impeach him or Trump will step down due to Mueller getting too close.

unblock

(52,262 posts)
4. if they get low enough, the polls do matter.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 11:26 AM
Dec 2017

the tipping point is when the polls are low enough that enough republican members of congress would not get re-elected with donnie in the white house.

up to now, they've been more worried about opposing donnie and getting primaried due to pissed off donnie supporters, which is why they're tolerating him.

when it gets to the point where he's jeopardizing their general election chances, that's when they'll finally move against him.

Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
3. So Trump has further ruined the Republican brand & they got their giveaway to millionaires
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 11:07 AM
Dec 2017

Will they turn on Benedict Donald out of political survival or do they not want the details of the stolen 2016 election coming out because most of them were in on it.

Either way, not a very good position to be in!

Yonnie3

(17,444 posts)
5. One thing that people don't mention about these approval polls is ...
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 11:42 AM
Dec 2017

this is not "would you vote for ... ?" It is

"Gallup tracks daily the percentage of Americans who approve or disapprove of the job Donald Trump is doing as president."


It is hard to draw a firm conclusion about how this poll would affect an election, say mid-terms. Mid-terms are very important to us. Sure, it does indicate where he stands with the electorate, but does it mean much about other Republicans? The Republican candidates will select their distance from tRump and modify their message to the electorate.

To be clear, I despise tRump and I am glad to see his bad numbers. If they get bad enough, Republican Congress critters would be much more likely to impeach him and that would hopefully have some significant negative impact on Republicans in general.

Fivethirtyeight.com does a consolidation of Congressional generic polls, which show the Democratic Party up 8% as of today.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-generic-ballot-polls/?ex_cid=rrpromo

All politics are local, so it is again hard to draw any firm conclusions about a flip of the house or senate from a national poll. I've seen discussions where the statistically inclined pundits give a percentage lead that this poll should have to make the flip likely. As I recall these needed leads range from 10 to 20%, which isn't helpful. I am sorry, but I don't recall if some of these were just for the Senate, which might be the case.

We have got some work to do!
 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
6. Maybe this link can help you
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 11:52 AM
Dec 2017

<snip>PRINCETON, NJ -- Presidents who retain majority job approval from Americans at the time of midterm elections are much less likely to see their party suffer heavy seat losses than are those with sub-50% approval ratings. Since 1946, when presidents are above 50% approval, their party loses an average of 14 seats in the U.S. House in the midterm elections, compared with an average loss of 36 seats when presidents are below that mark.<snip>

PS: Trump is at 33%, the lowest in 50 years

Link;
http://news.gallup.com/poll/141812/avg-midterm-seat-loss-presidents-below-approval.aspx

Yonnie3

(17,444 posts)
8. I am well aware of these stats.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 11:56 AM
Dec 2017

Last edited Sun Dec 3, 2017, 01:40 PM - Edit history (2)

I said it is hard to draw a FIRM conclusion.

We have work to do!

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
9. No shiting
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 02:05 PM
Dec 2017

I work hard every election. I don't just vote.

We need to get the rest of the coalition out to vote. This tax cut bill fucks the youngest part of our coalition. If they need me to incentivize them to vote the right way, this is a lost cause. If women need me to get them out to vote the right way in order to send a message to Washington, this is a lost cause. I will always do my part, but if people want to sit on their asses and get fucked, there's really not much else I (or we) can do. My state in nearly completely blue (Massachusetts). 9 congress people (my congresswoman is Katherine Clark, who represents my beliefs at a rate of 100%) are all Democratic. My Senators are Liz Warren and Ed Markey. We have a Republican Governor, but a legislature so Democratic he can't even sustain a veto. He's the most moderate Republican in the country and I have and will be working against him, just because he's a Republican. If every state matched mine, we'd be in pretty good shape.

I've done my work, others have to do there's.

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
7. With all polls he's running an average of about
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 11:55 AM
Dec 2017

56% disapprove and 38% approve. That is pretty awful overall. Especially for his first year and with an economy that is doing well today.

Could you imagine if/when the economy sours? He WILL be in the mid twenties at that point...if he makes it that long. This Tax bill won't help either.

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