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kentuck

(111,104 posts)
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 10:34 PM Dec 2017

America has been hoisted upon its own big, beautiful petard.

A democracy cannot survive long on a diet of lies.

It will be ripped asunder like new dirt with a turn plow.

Everything cannot be a secret. Everything cannot be kept from the people. There must be some sense of openness and truthfulness for us to survive.

There is no truth coming from this present regime in Washington. Everything is a lie.

America is like a stray dog, tied to a post in the hot sun, without any water.

We cannot last long like this.

We must get the truth, and soon.

(Sorry to be so negative and pessimistic)

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America has been hoisted upon its own big, beautiful petard. (Original Post) kentuck Dec 2017 OP
No apologies necessary - cilla4progress Dec 2017 #1
America has become a second or third rate country in less than a year. democratisphere Dec 2017 #2
No offense but that means "defeated by your own plot meant for another" Drahthaardogs Dec 2017 #3
I think it means "blown up by your own bomb" JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2017 #4
That was indeed the original usage I believe Drahthaardogs Dec 2017 #5

cilla4progress

(24,740 posts)
1. No apologies necessary -
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 10:58 PM
Dec 2017

I agree. Our golden years are behind us. As we slip into 3rd world? status, the only
Q is what will we become?

Shh! Don’t frighten the children.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
2. America has become a second or third rate country in less than a year.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 06:19 AM
Dec 2017

Just when you think we can't get any lower, redumbliCONs prove US wrong. When people start dying in the streets, maybe most of America will wakeup and actually do something about it.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
3. No offense but that means "defeated by your own plot meant for another"
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 08:50 AM
Dec 2017

I don't see how that applies here. This was calculated, orchestrated, and executed according to plan.

Nothing backfired here.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,354 posts)
4. I think it means "blown up by your own bomb"
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 12:10 PM
Dec 2017

For 'tis the sport to have the engineer
Hoist with his own petard: and 't shall go hard
But I will delve one yard below their mines,
And blow them at the moon:

Hamlet, Act III, Scene 4

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
5. That was indeed the original usage I believe
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 12:52 PM
Dec 2017

It now means defeated by your own plot. At this point, we can't say that has happened. I pray to God next November we can indeed say the GOP was hoisted by their own petard

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