No matter what some here are telling you: THIS TAX BILL ISN'T OVER YET.

[pnwmom]

Now is the most critical time, because the House and the Senate passed different bills.

Either this bill goes to reconciliation, and the two Houses have to both vote on a new, amended bill,

OR the House has to approve the putrid Senate bill, AS IS.

And every single member of the House is up for re-election next year.

SO KEEP UP ALL THE PRESSURE ON THEM. KEEP THE PHONE CALLS, EMAILS, AND LETTERS COMING.

NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO STOP!

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/12/2/16724738/senate-tax-vote-house-bill-differences

The House and Senate have now passed their respective tax bills. Next, they have to figure out how to reconcile their differences.

The negotiations will happen in a conference committee, where Republicans from the House and Senate will get together to try to hash out a final plan. Once they do, both chambers will have to pass it again. Republican leaders and the White House want to pass a final bill by the end of the year and send it to President Trump’s desk.

The House and Senate bill have their biggest features in common: They would both slash the corporate tax rate from 35 percent to 20 percent, a historic reduction in the taxes levied on businesses at a time when Americans support raising taxes on corporations.

But there are also some big differences, including how permanent this tax overhaul would be. The House bill makes its changes to the individual tax code permanent; the Senate bill would allow many major provisions to expire after 2025 in order to comply with Senate rules that limit how much a bill that can’t be filibustered can increase the federal deficit.

[mopinko]

1. house will pass the senate bill.

you heard it here first. no way the senate wants to do this again. specially if moore loses.

[pnwmom]

3. Stuff it. Dire predictions help the Rethugs, not the PEOPLE. Do you really want to help them???? n/t

[mopinko]

6. nothing dire about it. beside

they will load it up like the clampett's truck if they dont accept the senate version.

[USALiberal]

8. Stuff it? Wow, nice attitude. n/t

[pnwmom]

11. That's my attitude toward anyone whose public hopelessness could help the Rethugs. n/t

[USALiberal]

13. More like anyone who disagrees with you. n/t

[pnwmom]

14. When have I ever said anything like that before? Never. But I'm drawing the line now.

You're either helping the cause or hurting it. Everyone has to choose.

[RealityChik]

17. Imagine if George Washington had told his troops to 'stuff it'!

HINT: We're all on the same team here. Respectful behavior is what is expected here. You have to give it to get. A little self-control goes a long way.

[pnwmom]

18. He would have told them more than that, if they were giving up in the face of the enemy.nt

[RealityChik]

39. You missed my point...

My comment was about disrespect. Telling people to 'Stuff it' is not the best way to motivate them to respond the way you want them to. If Washington had disrespected his men...aw heck. Not worth spending more time on this. Sorry you missed my point.

[sadiegirl]

4. I believe as you do. Ryan is simply going to call the vote for the Senate bill.

I hope they all choke on it. McCain, Collins, Flake...they have sold their souls or they have shown their true colors.

[pnwmom]

5. All the more reason to DELUGE the House NOW. They're all up for election in 2018.

Don't deluge DU with negative posts. Swamp the House with emails and phone calls.

NOW!

[LonePirate]

9. I also think the House will pass the Senate bill as is, possibly even in the next few days.

[RealityChik]

15. So we should just give up?

And then what?

[mopinko]

16. then fight like hell next year.

burn this shit to the ground and salt the earth.

[RealityChik]

19. You're assuming 2018 election will be fair?

Don't assume this groundswell for Democrats will be enough to win elections! What happened in 2016 was just a practice round in election theft. We have to use EVERY opportunity to push back when there's a glimmer of hope we can sabotage Repub dirty deals. This taxpayer tax theft doesn't get any dirtier than this. We don't need to flip the whole Congress. We only need to convince a handful to do the right thing and choose country over party.

If 'We the People' aren't willing to fight for our rights, just who do you think is gonna do it for us?

[mopinko]

35. i assume nothing.

i intend to work my ass off.

[still_one]

31. Actually, that is highly unlikely. At a minimum a good number of House republicans have expressed

trouble with the corporate tax rate decrease not taking effect until 2019, and that this tax plan would need to be renewed in 2025. A good number of republicans do not want it to have to be renewed, but want to make it permanent

There are other issues also where the Senate version and the House version do not agree, and the House will not just accept the Senate version

[JustAnotherGen]

37. If Lance votes for it

NJ 7th - he loses.

[still_one]

38. I am hoping they lose big time and we control both houses

[marybourg]

34. I fear you're correct. They have no real interest

in policy, or even in their constituents, only in paying their major donors back, so they'll do it in the most expedient way.

[BigmanPigman]

2. I have read many posts on DU today

with the common idea/goal...DO NOT STOP FIGHTING!!
Call, write, attend events, phone bank, etc. This is promising. I have received a lot of emails today from various groups who are fighting and they are serious and organized. There is a nationwide phone call tomorrow and I urge everyone to sign up. Birnie is out on the streets in PA and Ohio. This is NOT over yet and the fat lady has not sung!
https://action.notonepenny.org/page/s/join-the-strategy-call-on-sunday-at-5-00-pm-et?source=20171201tmemail

[California_Republic]

7. Agreed! It doesnt look good, but it isnt over

[briv1016]

10. What was the margin of victory for the house bill? How many more Rs can they afford to lose?

Let's be realistic here. There's going to be a strong "just get it done" mentality for the house to pass the senate bill. (likely in the next week) Especially if they think the whole house of cards is going to collapse before the next election.

[pnwmom]

12. 13 Republicans voted no last time. They can only afford to lose 10 more.

And every single one of them is up for re-election in 2018, including many R's in blue states -- the states that will be most impacted.

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/13-republican-vote-no-house-passes-tax-reform-227-205

[Kentonio]

20. I don't see what we have to lose by continuing to fight

If we lose anyway, at least we've gone down swinging. And who knows, maybe we can pull off something special?

[pnwmom]

21. Right. And this is the most CRITICAL moment -- it's absolutely not a time to give up.

But that's what they want us to do.

[BumRushDaShow]

22. I am glad that site had someone who

was familiar with this -

[hauckeye]

23. Unfortunately my rep is Paul Ryan

Is it even worth trying to call him?

[yallerdawg]

24. I say if no one gives him an earful...

he can honestly say this is what his constituents want.

I say remind him he represents YOU, too!

[58Sunliner]

33. I'd call that traitor on a daily basis. It has an effect.

Find an office with a breathing body answering the phone and make life uncomfortable for PR. Block your number.

[Cryptoad]

25. Just as long as they can keep the,,,,

elimination of the Death tax and the AMT. They have been stealing that Gubermint Money for so long by hook and crook, any thing besides that is gravy for the GOP!

[L. Coyote]

26. Their House of Cards is falling. We don't know who will be President in a week. Felons are singing.

[Progressive dog]

27. The Senate bill will be passed as is

by the House. They will accept any tax bill that gives their rich donors the reward that they were promised.

[samnsara]

28. text RESIST to 50409 to send a free fax to your state rep!

[pnwmom]

29. THANKS! n/t

[ffr]

30. Good to know.

Fuck tRump!

[58Sunliner]

32. YES!!! Thank you. It won't be over even if the ink dries from Dipshit signing this POS.

[Achilleaze]

36. K and r