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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA possible endgame.
Let's suppose that Mueller ends up in the possession of an undeniable smoking gun: an irrefutably authentic record of a conversation between Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump where Trump promises to sell out the interests of the United States to Putin in exchange for Putin's forgiveness of Trump's massive debts and a promise to never reveal the kompromat that Putin holds.
When the Joint Chiefs of Staff realize the evidence is not only true beyond a doubt, but also will become public to a worldwide audience, they go to congressional leaders with the following dilemma: military officers swear:
I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." The Oath of Office (for officers): "I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the _____ (Military Branch) of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God.
Two problems: What do you do if you can't both defend the Constitution and follow the orders of the President? And, military officers are not bound by orders that are illegal, but can any order from a President who is actively functioning as an agent of a foreign power be legal? Wouldn't that mean that, for all practical purposes, there is no president?
Wouldn't Congress be compelled to remove Trump at that point, or stand by and watch a military coup?
onethatcares
(16,168 posts)I truly believe the Constitution trumps (hahahahahhA)
Girard442
(6,073 posts)VMA131Marine
(4,139 posts)Of a foreign power would not be legal. At that point, the POTUS would be in violation of his oath of office. It would still
Be up to Congress to remove him.