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spooky3

(34,456 posts)
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 05:42 PM Dec 2017

I hope Mueller's team finds evidence of bad behavior occurring BEFORE Nov. 2016.

I believe that there was Russian interference WELL before the post-election, pre-inauguration transition period.

I think also that many Americans who aren't that interested in politics will likely view the post-election conversations with Russia to be simply a minor issue, and one of timing, along the lines of "OK, maybe they should have waited a little bit longer, but what's the big deal? Trump was going to be taking office soon so it was OK that he did what he could to 'improve relationships'."

It was the coordination with Russians (and possibly others) to throw the election to Trump illegally that concerns me most.

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I hope Mueller's team finds evidence of bad behavior occurring BEFORE Nov. 2016. (Original Post) spooky3 Dec 2017 OP
Question greeny2323 Dec 2017 #1
I hope that's not the only reason. What do you think? spooky3 Dec 2017 #3
Definitely not marylandblue Dec 2017 #5
+1. The post-election stuff is not insignificant, but it won't bring Trump down. Hoyt Dec 2017 #2
You hoped and so it shall be done. Oh don't worry they most certainly have the goods on them Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #4
obstruction of justice seems to be one thing, what about SWBTATTReg Dec 2017 #6
 

greeny2323

(590 posts)
1. Question
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 05:48 PM
Dec 2017

Do you think Mueller gave Flynn that awesome plea deal because Flynn had evidence of violations of the Logan Act?

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
5. Definitely not
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 06:28 PM
Dec 2017

In fact I think the outline is clear and Mueller figured it out months ago.
1) Russia has shady business deals with Trump going back decades (bribery, high crimes and misdemeanors).
2) Russia convinces Trump to run for President.
3) Russia promises to help Trump run and give him more shady deals.
4) Trump promises to improve relations with Russia in return.
5) Russia collects pee and other kompromat to keep him loyal.
6) Russia helps Trump through free advertising (campaign finance violation), hacked emails (theft, espionage), intelligence operations (espionage) and more shady deals (bribery, high crimes and misdemeanors).
7) Trump wins with Russian help.
8) Russia attempts to collect on Trump's promise to improve relations.
9) Trump is too stupid to deliver.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
2. +1. The post-election stuff is not insignificant, but it won't bring Trump down.
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 05:48 PM
Dec 2017

The best bet post-election seems to be obstruction of justice.

 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
4. You hoped and so it shall be done. Oh don't worry they most certainly have the goods on them
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 05:57 PM
Dec 2017

prior to the election. This is going to be the biggest political scandal in US History.

SWBTATTReg

(22,129 posts)
6. obstruction of justice seems to be one thing, what about
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 06:49 PM
Dec 2017

undeclared income from Russian or Russian affiliated sources? Makes sense to me that tRUMP, so concerned w/ every single dollar would demand something like this...the ISIS argument seems to me rather thin...

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