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As the GOP continues to corner the majority of the population into a dystopia, and the masses finally collectively realize the sellout by the Trump administration and congress, there are going to be a lot of angry people up against the wall. The tensions in the US are high. What a shame. It's clear the GOP wants a major destabilization of the US democracy.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/is-america-headed-for-a-new-kind-of-civil-war
Mines cited five conditions that support his prediction: entrenched national polarization, with no obvious meeting place for resolution; increasingly divisive press coverage and information flows; weakened institutions, notably Congress and the judiciary; a sellout or abandonment of responsibility by political leadership; and the legitimization of violence as the in way to either conduct discourse or solve disputes.
A day after the brawling and racist brutality and deaths in Virginia, Governor Terry McAuliffe asked, How did we get to this place? The more relevant question after Charlottesvilleand other deadly episodes in Ferguson, Charleston, Dallas, St. Paul, Baltimore, Baton Rouge, and Alexandriais where the United States is headed. How fragile is the Union, our republic, and a country that has long been considered the worlds most stable democracy? The dangers are now bigger than the collective episodes of violence. The radical right was more successful in entering the political mainstream last year than in half a century, the Southern Poverty Law Center reported in February. The organization documents more than nine hundred active (and growing) hate groups in the United States.
We keep saying, It cant happen here, but then, holy smokes, it can, Mines told me after we talked, on Sunday, about Charlottesville. The pattern of civil strife has evolved worldwide over the past sixty years. Today, few civil wars involve pitched battles from trenches along neat geographic front lines. Many are low-intensity conflicts with episodic violence in constantly moving locales. Miness definition of a civil war is large-scale violence that includes a rejection of traditional political authority and requires the National Guard to deal with it. On Saturday, McAuliffe put the National Guard on alert and declared a state of emergency.
Based on his experience in civil wars on three continents, Mines cited five conditions that support his prediction: entrenched national polarization, with no obvious meeting place for resolution; increasingly divisive press coverage and information flows; weakened institutions, notably Congress and the judiciary; a sellout or abandonment of responsibility by political leadership; and the legitimization of violence as the in way to either conduct discourse or solve disputes.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)If it keeps on its current course, it will be very similar to the breakup of Yugoslavia.
Times 20, including the genocide.
RKP5637
(67,109 posts)The elements that used to bond the US together are fragmenting and people seem to be regionalizing. And under Trump, for example, it's more about division that uniting.
ClarendonDem
(720 posts)Then they should buy firearms to protect their family.
I didn't think I would see instances of genocide in my adulthood, but Rwanda and Yugoslavia proved me very wrong. And there are posts on far right websites (and even on Facebook) that convinced me there are Americans who would kill fellow Americans simply because of political beliefs, religious beliefs, or sexual preferences. Those are the Roy Moore voters to some extent.
RKP5637
(67,109 posts)jalan48
(13,869 posts)with a few very wealthy individuals controlling the economy and the politics. Think Mexico and Central America.
Throck
(2,520 posts)RKP5637
(67,109 posts)Throck
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(67,109 posts)Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)I'd like to say, Hey Assholes; You've got it all wrong!
If Trump and the GOP crimes are allowed to stand, maybe the 70 % of us will collectively stand up and shut this country down until the traitors are brought to justice!
PS: we know you're bad at math, but our 70% is a lot stronger than your 30%!
nocalflea
(1,387 posts)ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Six or seven months ago, they seemed a little disconcerting, but now they just make me shrug and say, "Go ahead and try that, motherfuckers". If there was a civil war, I think it would be over pretty quickly and the tRumpturds would be the big losers.
dumbcat
(2,120 posts)maybe we could get .001% of the 70% out on the street.
Amishman
(5,557 posts)Barring an economic implosion that rivals the great depression, I don't see people getting off their asses. Those willing to risk criminal charges or worse by rising up is probably low single digits % on each side.
bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)The GOP tax bill will kill the federal government as a force to stabilize the economy during the inevitable downturn. It will also build a decade long structural deficit into the fed budget so that it wont be able to provide economic relief to the citizens hurt most.
Imagine 2008 with no federal intervention or aid. And then add a Country paved wall to wall with assault rifles and an endless supply of ammunition. My God what have they done?
RKP5637
(67,109 posts)at this point.
carterb034
(8 posts)Maybe 5-6.
They have to take the entire Trump and Ryan family tree with them and build a wall, paid for of course by Trump. Wait. He doesn't actually have a lot of money. Ok, let's have Ryan chip in.
colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)A century after the Civil War ended LBJ shoved through his Civil Rights Bill. Politically, as he surmised, it turned the south over to the republicans. Racism is still rampant.
We are like two countries molded into one. Electing this narcissistic racist sexist legacy plutocrat has brought all this out in the open, with anti semitism thrown in as a bonus.
We are a mess and who knows what is ahead, most everything that has simmered below the surface is spilling out.
RKP5637
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bluestarone
(16,952 posts)certain foreign countries are very much excited about it! They would just love it