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Moral Compass

(1,521 posts)
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 01:38 PM Dec 2017

A piece that reflects what I think is really going on....

Read this piece (https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/the-gop-doesnt-care-if-you-like-their-tax-bill-and-heres-why/) before you celebrate our latest defeat.

The Tax Cut Travesty is a huge loss for the country, for the U.S., for the middle class, and for the Democrats. It cannot be viewed in any other way. This is what happens when all the levers of power are in the Republican's hands. In spite of the demographic trends that tell us that the Republicans should become the minority party any day now--the Republicans continue to work on all fronts to make sure that they don't lose power even if they don't actually have the majority of the votes. By and large they continue to be successful.

A couple of predictions. Mueller is not going to save the day. There will be a lot of fallout from Flynn's guilty plea but Trump will not resign and he won't be impeached. Given the incredible job of gerrymandering the Republicans have performed there is little chance that they'll lose the House in 2018...or the Senate. Pence won't resign (someone posted that yesterday but I can't imagine what it was based on).

The truth is that we have an illegitimate President (again). Gerrymandering and voter suppression have made Democratic victories in key states very unlikely. Just look at Texas where the demographic knife should be cutting the sharpest. There are very few Democratic victories to be had no matter how bad the Republican candidates. Roy Moore will win.

Cheating works. Until it stops working those other guys won't stop cheating.

Even the sexual harrassment/assault issue is going against us. While Roy Moore seems to be surviving the flood of formerly pubescent females coming out with their stories you have Franken, Louis CK, Conyers etc. falling on their swords and profusely apologizing while the other guys are obfuscating, denying, and dissembling--but never admitting. While some have called for Moore to drop out of the race those who matter have not. Whereas the Democratic leadership have predictably assembled the circular firing squad and demanded Conyers' resignation and the resignation of a couple of others.

On the other side, Blake Farenthold, who has clearly always been a complete demented perv is denying, denying, denying even though there is a $84000 payment to one of his accusers that worked for him. See the difference?

Sarah Sanders put her finger right on it when challenged about the accusations against Trump vs. the accusations against Franken. Trump has never admitted anything while Franken has. And there you have it.

I don't know what the answer is. If we as Democrats throw our obviously superior morals to the wind we might start winning, but we would also become those we fight against.

Right now we are on the ropes and I don't think we'll be coming out of it any time soon. We cannot even agree on what we are for and articulate that to the American people.

There is a big opportunity here. What Trump is delivering is very different from what many of his voters thought they were signing up for. But until we (the Democrats) define, describe, and promote an alternative what is there to bring these idiots over to our side?

We are against what is going on but what are we telling the voters we are for?

Much of what is going on stems from what are becoming obvious weaknesses of our constitutional republic. There is nothing that can be done about a questionable election at any level once the results are certified. Our remedies to malfeasance in office are too much in control of whoever has the majorities in the legislative branch. Our lifetime appointments to powerful judicial posts means that the most ruthless players of the confirmation game are the ultimate winners--thus the minority party was able to keep a Supreme Court justice from being seated by the duly elected President at that time. The list goes on.

We are losing at the Game of Thrones.





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A piece that reflects what I think is really going on.... (Original Post) Moral Compass Dec 2017 OP
This sounds like the crap MFM008 Dec 2017 #1
Cheating works. Until it stops working those other guys won't stop cheating. elleng Dec 2017 #2
Too Pessimistic Vidal Dec 2017 #3
I didnt include my prescription(s) for a solution Moral Compass Dec 2017 #6
Virginia Used Paper Ballots - We Urgently Need to Address the Issue of Rigged Voting Machines dlk Dec 2017 #4
Democrats win if people show up to vote. rgbecker Dec 2017 #5

MFM008

(19,814 posts)
1. This sounds like the crap
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 01:41 PM
Dec 2017

We heard from HTC haters.
They didn't see Virginia coming last month.
It proves we can win when enough of us turn out.
Anyone wants to lay on the tracks be my guest.

elleng

(130,908 posts)
2. Cheating works. Until it stops working those other guys won't stop cheating.
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 01:42 PM
Dec 2017

'What Trump is delivering is very different from what many of his voters thought they were signing up for. But until we (the Democrats) define, describe, and promote an alternative what is there to bring these idiots over to our side?

We are against what is going on but what are we telling the voters we are for?'

 

Vidal

(642 posts)
3. Too Pessimistic
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 01:43 PM
Dec 2017

I do understand everything you said but why you said it.

However, your conclusions are overly negative.

It wasn't that long ago (before Obamacare was passed) the Democrats controlled everything.

This can happen again.

The only bad thing that could happen is if people like us give up and have defeatist attitudes.

Keep the Faith, Baby.

Never Give Up.

Moral Compass

(1,521 posts)
6. I didnt include my prescription(s) for a solution
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 02:28 PM
Dec 2017

I was pressed for time—had to go to work even though I’m sick.

I do think we can dig out of this.

What needs to happen?

Universal voter registration when you turn 18
Voter registration integrated with the USPS address change system
Complete elimination of electronic voting (I was in IT for 20 years and have worked with the Diebold system here in Texas...insecure doesn’t adequately describe those systems)
Time limited campaigns
Publicly financed campaigns
Explicit support for unionism-until labor has a seat at the table how can anything change?

The truth is that this will take time and effort. The problem is time. Subsistence workers have little time to do anything other than survive. Those that need to be at the ramparts can’t be there when they are focused on paying their rent and providing for their children.

My post was a reaction to the almost giddy posts about the Flynn guilty plea juxtaposed with this obscene tax bill passing the Senate.

Forgive me for my haste and for my pessimism.

dlk

(11,566 posts)
4. Virginia Used Paper Ballots - We Urgently Need to Address the Issue of Rigged Voting Machines
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 01:46 PM
Dec 2017

Between gerrymandering, voter suppression and rigged voting machines, there is much work to be done.

rgbecker

(4,831 posts)
5. Democrats win if people show up to vote.
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 01:58 PM
Dec 2017

What will motivate them if the Dems take money from wall street and the multinational corporations just as the GOP does?

Time to present the voters with a candidate that doesn't look and sound like a politician. A new face without the baggage of years equivivating and trying to appeal to multimillionaires. Look to history and you'll see the new young Democratic candidate wins while the entrenched Democratic candidate loses: Kennedy, Carter, Clinton, Obama were winners, Gore, Mondale, Kerry, couldn't get the average half asleep voter to the polls.

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