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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 11:57 AM Dec 2017

The GOP is now going to cut Medicare and then blame Dems for it.

This is the current playbook. There are automatic spending cuts triggered by this tax cut, including Medicare.

What the GOP is going to do is propose some horrible "Medicare reform" that puts seniors into prison colonies, and they are going to try to sell it under the guise of "saving" Medicare from the automatic cuts that their own tax bill triggers. And then when the Democrats don't go along with the prison-colony-Medicare thing, they are going to blame the Dems for blocking "Medicare reform" and the ensuing automatically triggered cuts.

And Trump voters are going to believe them.

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The GOP is now going to cut Medicare and then blame Dems for it. (Original Post) DanTex Dec 2017 OP
Punish the people who did not vote for you, that's their playbook. L. Coyote Dec 2017 #1
They have until MFM008 Dec 2017 #2
We know that many more deploarables are dependent on government payments question everything Dec 2017 #3
In order to get my 84 year old husband into a nursing home i need to sell everything i own shirleye Dec 2017 #4
What does Medicare have to do with virgogal Dec 2017 #7
I suspect it is because of Medicaid Yonnie3 Dec 2017 #9
Yes, and the future is there will be NOTHING for you if you are not rich. Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #11
Thanks. I was confused because virgogal Dec 2017 #14
"Well, we MUST do something about the deficits!!!!!!" dalton99a Dec 2017 #5
The Republican House and Senate are the real Death Panels LastLiberal in PalmSprings Dec 2017 #6
They are going to kill people, for sure Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #12
Rubio said as much: Qutzupalotl Dec 2017 #8
When this tax "PLAN" blows up in a few years mitch96 Dec 2017 #10
But they promised Susan Collins they wouldn't . . . Ms. Toad Dec 2017 #13

MFM008

(19,814 posts)
2. They have until
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 12:01 PM
Dec 2017

November 2018 to play.
Then blue state republicans time will come ...
Then we rewrite tax bill if we get 2/3 majority and laugh if maggot vetos it.
If he's still in Washington in 11 months....

question everything

(47,481 posts)
3. We know that many more deploarables are dependent on government payments
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 12:06 PM
Dec 2017

the trick will be to personalize it. If Jack Smith is the incumbent Republican congressman from a small town in, say Kentucky, and Bob James is a Democrat running against him, Bob should visit coffee shops, senior housing and point the finger directly at Jack Smith. You don't have enough disability payments? Food stamps? It is Jack Smith's fault.

Our problem has always been that we talked in generalities, in policies, at high grade levels. We need to be specific and to point the blames directly at incumbents.

shirleye

(58 posts)
4. In order to get my 84 year old husband into a nursing home i need to sell everything i own
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 12:09 PM
Dec 2017

as many people face the same dilemma i do the priority of republicans is billions being saved by the .01 percent

Yonnie3

(17,442 posts)
9. I suspect it is because of Medicaid
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 01:28 PM
Dec 2017

I've heard similar stories from people I know about their parent having to own no significant assets in order to have medicaid pay for nursing home care. Medicare limits the number of days per year in a nursing home as we discovered after my mother's stroke.

I'm no expert on this.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
11. Yes, and the future is there will be NOTHING for you if you are not rich.
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 03:59 PM
Dec 2017

You will be homeless, we all will be.

That is what the GOP wants, they have made that clear.

But you know, emails

 

virgogal

(10,178 posts)
14. Thanks. I was confused because
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 05:43 PM
Dec 2017

the topic was was about Medicare cuts in the new tax plan.

Medicaid has required elimination of assets for many years-----has nothing to do with this new tax bill.

Each state has different requirements,though.

mitch96

(13,905 posts)
10. When this tax "PLAN" blows up in a few years
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 01:35 PM
Dec 2017

The party in power is gonna have to raise taxes.. Just like Reagan's "trickle down" had to raise taxes after his tax cut.. It does not work and never has..
But after all this is all in their plan.. To make ends meet they will cut social benefits even more.. That's what their corporate handlers told them to do..
First gerrymander voting districts. Then cut democratic voters from the voting rolls, Get a majority of the house and senate in as republicans, implement a massive tax plan for the rich and then when it can't be paid for, gut social programs... uggh......
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