Anyone been to the other side to see what they're saying about this tax shit??

[a kennedy]

I woke up and damn near felt like I did when I woke to tRump's win.

[Moral Compass]

1. Pretty subdued

I just bounced over to Free Republic and there isn’t a whole lot. Some are posting Rubio’s comments about Social Security and Medicare being next for cuts coupled with some half hearted replies saying that that will never happen.

[a kennedy]

2. Thanks, just can't bring myself to do it.

[Willie Pep]

4. Not surprised.

Much of the hardcore GOP base is there for culture war stuff not tax cuts. Many wealthier Republicans probably avoid nuthouses like Free Republic and Breitbart. Wall Street Journal Republicans are a different breed although they are also loathsome in my opinion.

[mia]

3. Not much celebration there either... "Thanks a ton. MAGA is dead to me."

"Doubling" the Standard Deduction is not "double" because of that.

The GOPe destroyed or capped almost every measly tax deduction we had (mortgage interest, SALT taxes, medical expenses, student loans, employment tuition benefits, etc.) all so the GOPe donors and corporations could make out like bandits. And someone had to "pay for" their huge tax cut in a revenue neutral budget - you and me. They soaked the middle class.

Those deductions (some like SALT have been in the Tax Code since 1913 to prevent double taxation) are not gone - FOREVER! We will never get them back. Taxes, however, can and will go up at the will of our Federal Masters.

The Goldman Sachs snake oil agents who wormed their way into the White House did their job.

The casino will pay out big - until it doesn't.

"We will massively cut taxes for the middle class, the forgotten people, the forgotten men and women of this country, who built our country....Tax relief will be concentrated on the working and middle class taxpayer. They will receive the biggest benefit and it won't even be close."**

Donald Trump, Scranton PA, Oct 2016

**Except for you middle class in NY, NJ, CA, IL, CT, WA, MA, and other states....and except for you middle class who deduct medical expenses, and except for large families who rely on the Personal Exemption, and except for you young people who deduct student loan interest, and except for you middle class who deduct mortgage interest, and except for you men who have to pay alimony, and except for you school teachers who deduct paying for school supplies out of your own pocket, and except for graduate students, and except for college students who get tuition benefits from parental employment, and...

The GOPe could have simply cut taxes for everyone or made the tax cut more fair.

They chose instead to pick "winners" and "losers."

Those of us losing, and who dared object, have been derided and called every name in the book, including "Communists", "A$$holes", "Stupid", etc.

The GOP will probably lose the House in 2018. The campaign commercials about Republicans raising taxes on many families so that corporations could get massive tax cuts will write themselves. And the democrats don't even need to lie this time.

In the hope of finding common ground, I often check on how the opposition is reacting.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3609832/posts

[Sailor65x1]

5. In looking for common ground,

This probably ends up being the most common possible.

[EL34x4]

7. Red and Blue State Republicans are going have different opinions on Trump's tax reform.

Removing the SALT (state and local taxes) deduction, people who live in some blue states (including Trump voters) are likely going to pay higher taxes.

I think this is the biggest takaway that nobody is really talking about. Without this deduction, there may be pressure from residents of these states to their local governments to lower taxes.

[MiniMe]

6. And they have put a huge dent in the housing market

When they do the formulas on how much much mortgage you can afford, the property tax deduction is part of that formula