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louis c

(8,652 posts)
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 10:38 AM Dec 2017

Elections have consequences, voting (correct) matters

I have been posting here since 2004. My main theme is that we, as Democrats, have to know how to vote. The other side certainly does. As Democrats, we can fight for our individual candidates, who most closely represent out important priorities, during Democratic Primaries. My top priorities are labor issues. I am aligned on civil rights and gun control. I am a Liberal. I get the candidate I want about half the time, and the Democratic nominee for any office is not my first choice about the other half. By way of example, Hilary was my choice in 2008. After Obama got nominated, I donated to his general election campaign and spent at least 10 days knocking on Union doors in New Hampshire (I'm from Massachusetts, but I know how the Electoral College works). You see, I know that the worse Democrat (policy speaking, not character speaking) is better than the best Republican. That goes for almost every office, but certainly the Presidency, the US Senate and the US House of Representatives. Last night was a prime example. I think we can almost all agree that the Republican Senator who is closest to being aligned with Democratic policies is Susan Collins from Maine. The least dependable Democratic Senator is Joe Manchin of West Virginia. How did they vote last night? I rest my case on this point.

I have a lifetime of being politically active. I have seen 50 years of electoral politics. Humphrey/Nixon, 1968. Ted Kennedy taking on Carter in 1980, weakening the President and paving the way for the Regan era. That piece of horse shit Ralph Nader giving us Bush 43, which resulted in 2 wars and a crippling great recession. And now, the worst disaster in American political history, the biggest asshole, incompetent, con-man piece of shit to ever serve in public office, at any level, Donald John Trump.

How often do we need, as Democrats, to have our noses pushed into the shit before we realize that we are all that stands between an oppressive, plutocratic government and a free, Democratic government that works for all of the American people?

We use that demonic and denigrating cliché' of "the lesser of two evils" which excuses those we try to convince that our side is also evil. What fucking dopes we are to use that phrase when we need to get our people out to vote to prevent this living catastrophe, of which last night's US Senate vote is just the latest example. Our point should by that we need our side to vote for the person who has a chance to win and who most represents our legislative priorities, whether or not that individual is our first choice

To paraphrase Benjamin Franklin, "If we don't hang together, we surely will all hang separately."

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Elections have consequences, voting (correct) matters (Original Post) louis c Dec 2017 OP
The first thing I thought of pintobean Dec 2017 #1
Agree. Using phrase "lesser of 2 evils" is huge mistake delisen Dec 2017 #2
 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
1. The first thing I thought of
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 10:49 AM
Dec 2017

when this passed was all the moderate Democrats we've thrown under the bus.

We've seen a lot of cannibalistic feeding frenzies here.

Rec

delisen

(6,043 posts)
2. Agree. Using phrase "lesser of 2 evils" is huge mistake
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 10:56 AM
Dec 2017

The Democratic Party is not the lesser of 2 evils nor are the candidates we run.

If you use this phrase you have already bought into Republican/Russian propaganda aimed at destroying our economy and our liberty.

If you truly believe it we cannot win you over or appease you. There is nothing more to be said except that you are one of the obstacles we must overcome in order to build a successful Democratic majority that works for the overwhelming majority of Americans and ends the rule of those working against us.

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