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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRemember the left railing against the "status quo" ??
I hope they remember their bullshit on this day.
melman
(7,681 posts)I do but it seems like a long time ago now.
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)Demsrule86
(68,582 posts)and the Democratic Party...these people can no longer be consider left...they are Trump supporters.
yardwork
(61,634 posts)melman
(7,681 posts)Not at all accurate but certainly predictable.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)It's time to stop collectively blaming all progressives for the words and deeds of a tiny few.
betsuni
(25,537 posts)and "corporatrist" and "neoliberal" and "Third Way" and "lesser of two evils" and "identity politics" and on and on and on.
Tavarious Jackson
(1,595 posts)I want the establishment and the status quo we use to have. Corporations too since I work for one.
betsuni
(25,537 posts)Willie Pep
(841 posts)That being said I hope some people on the fence will realize that voting Green or Socialist or sitting at home doesn't help any of their favorite causes. Even if you only get half of what you want with the Democrats it is better than nothing plus a bunch of stuff you don't want with the Republicans.
Stand and Fight
(7,480 posts)Tavarious Jackson
(1,595 posts)We need truth here and we need to be reminded often that history repeats itself. We thought we passed this moment with Nadar...
Demsrule86
(68,582 posts)JI7
(89,251 posts)stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)murielm99
(30,745 posts)Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)They love to do their single issue purity tests, declaring Harris, Warren or anyone who gets in Sanders' way for 2020 "not a true progressive."
Well, I have a single issue for them: If you didn't vote for the woman who was the only person standing between us and the nightmare we now face, not only are you not a progressive, youre a rightwing tool and a Trump supporter. Period.
Demsrule86
(68,582 posts)jalan48
(13,870 posts)a strategy to get people out to vote. That's about 100 million Americans.
DinahMoeHum
(21,794 posts)n/t
Demsrule86
(68,582 posts)others to join them and affected the overall vote...they are all dead to me...especially the Greens, Sarandon, Stein and Turner. There is no doubt that this is like 2000 when those on the left helped elect Bush and we got United, war and ultimately an economic collapse. collapse...and the so called left left betrayed the party and this country...we have a reactionary judiciary in the making and a tax bill that if the trigger survived will cut medicare, social security and medicaid automatically.
jalan48
(13,870 posts)Demsrule86
(68,582 posts)this country. They are in effect Republicans.
jalan48
(13,870 posts)That's where the real problem is.
Demsrule86
(68,582 posts)many stay home because those on the left left have convinced them that the parties are the same? This has been a meme of theirs for years... There was much damage done in 16 and in prior years by those on the left left...including abandoning Obama which lead to a GOP House and a gerrymander. Obama's sin? He had no way to pass single payer. So they punished him and us ultimately. The 2010 election ended any chance of passing progressive legislation. I well remember the guy who called Obama a used car salesmen when I lurked here.
These are the folks who gave us Bush (Nader and the Greens helped elect Bush)...and all the misery associated with Bush. And in 16, they did it again. Also their attacks on the party..'.they' being groups like our revolution and sadly even Move on these days have weakened the party and convinced people that the parties are the same ...hopefully people are waking up to the fact that this is a God damned lie from people who have their own agenda: the are entitled and privileged purist who consider themselves the ultimate progressives...never realizing they are GOP dupes. They can never be trusted and are not progressive ;they are no different in effect than Republicans.
jalan48
(13,870 posts)the Progressives that both parties are the same. Think about it-90 million eligible voters didn't vote and Jill Stein got 1.2 million votes. I think you are placing blame in the wrong place. And actually, maybe we should try and figure out why those 90 million didn't vote-that could help us in the next election.
torius
(1,652 posts)but I do remember a large Hillary group in 2012 who voted for McCain. A lot more than there were Bernie or Bust people.
Demsrule86
(68,582 posts)I well remember Nader helped elect Bush...and any who voted for Trump, Stein or stayed home helped elect Trump and need to turn in their progressive card as they are not progressive.
Demsrule86
(68,582 posts)jail on trumped up charges.
Demsrule86
(68,582 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)mdbl
(4,973 posts)so who's the purist? I voted for HRC and advised everyone else to - but I still want what Bernie was touting for our country. A totally misinformed and manipulated electorate is more to blame than the small percent of those on the left who didn't vote the way we did.
HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)I would walk two dogs in a leash and when one got angry at a passing dog, she would bite her brother. Welcome to these threads.
Baitball Blogger
(46,730 posts)It sounds like the status quo is getting a beating these days. Long time coming.
Or, is there something else you're referring to?
4now
(1,596 posts)and stop whining about things in the past.
KG
(28,751 posts)again