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standingtall

(2,785 posts)
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 03:06 AM Dec 2017

Democrats must repeal this crap

if and when they get back both houses and Presidency. I don't want to hear excuses like you don't raise taxes in a recession blah blah blah. This bill must be repealed for the sake of this countries long term future.

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Democrats must repeal this crap (Original Post) standingtall Dec 2017 OP
People must elect Democrats. dalton99a Dec 2017 #1
We cannot save America from the republican traitors workinclasszero Dec 2017 #2
wondering Meowmee Dec 2017 #3
I have read next year 24 billion gets cut out of Medicare with a rusty and dull republican saw workinclasszero Dec 2017 #4
But of course there will be no cuts to defense spending. cstanleytech Dec 2017 #6
Not one penny workinclasszero Dec 2017 #8
Pretty rapidly then Meowmee Dec 2017 #7
Most people don't follow politics much. Willie Pep Dec 2017 #9
I think Meowmee Dec 2017 #11
Just hope we can find a way to protect the arctic wildlife refuge till then. oxbow Dec 2017 #5
Not to mention the elderly set upon Arctic ice floes to drift to their deaths. WinkyDink Dec 2017 #13
And not fooled Dec 2017 #10
There is only one way for that to happen world wide wally Dec 2017 #12
My hope is this... chwaliszewski Dec 2017 #14

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
3. wondering
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 03:24 AM
Dec 2017

How long it will take for things to go south such as people suffering and the economy tanking if the bill is passed into law as it is? My R house rep voted no because it will hurt people financially who voted for him in my county. Who knows what he will vote with the amendments etc or what they will do to change it and how he will vote then.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
4. I have read next year 24 billion gets cut out of Medicare with a rusty and dull republican saw
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 03:34 AM
Dec 2017

This bill will also end the ACA, 14 million newly uninsured Americans, NEXT YEAR! This is an all out attack on the American public by the richest pigs on the planet and their republican stooges.

GOP eyes post-tax-cut changes to welfare, Medicare and Social Security
By Jeff Stein December 1 at 12:39 PM

High-ranking Republicans are hinting that, after their tax overhaul, the party intends to look at cutting spending on welfare, entitlement programs such as Social Security and Medicare, and other parts of the social safety net.

House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) said recently that he wants Republicans to focus in 2018 on reducing spending on government programs. Last month, President Trump said welfare reform will “take place right after taxes, very soon, very shortly after taxes.”

As Republicans advocate spending cuts, they have frequently cited a need to reduce the national deficit while growing the economy.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/12/01/gop-eyes-post-tax-cut-changes-to-welfare-medicare-and-social-security/

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
8. Not one penny
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 04:00 AM
Dec 2017

While we crank out one billion dollars a piece bombers, American children will be starving.

Old working Americans will be dyin in pain and terror by the hundreds of thousands as Trump spends one million dollars on every golf trip, but no $$$ for sick kids or old folks!

Fuck off and die peasants, your parents should have been 1%ers!

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
7. Pretty rapidly then
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 03:54 AM
Dec 2017

If all of this is true. My father wasn’t sure if they had voted against the amendment for removal of the aca mandate or not. They kept a lot of this concealed it seems and they were writing parts of the bill not long before the vote. I hope that this is going to affect 2018 elections. That’s the only hope now maybe.

Willie Pep

(841 posts)
9. Most people don't follow politics much.
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 04:04 AM
Dec 2017

Or they get their information from biased sources that will provide scapegoats for people. I remember when conservatives tried to blame minority homeowners for the Great Recession and sure enough I know some people who bought that line.

That is why it is important for Democrats and allies to be very forceful and explicit about how this bill hurts people. No waffling. There are definitely some people out there who can be brought to our side over this.

Sadly, some people are so brainwashed that even if the Republicans literally threw them into a wood chipper they would go to their doom blaming the Democrats, liberals, college students, blacks, feminists, Muslims or whoever their favorite scapegoat is.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
11. I think
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 04:10 AM
Dec 2017

You’re right about a lot of these people unfortunately. I’m hoping immediate suffering would have to sway them in some way, at least those who still have the ability to think for themselves on any level.

oxbow

(2,034 posts)
5. Just hope we can find a way to protect the arctic wildlife refuge till then.
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 03:40 AM
Dec 2017

That and the undercover skinny repeal jammed into this are the most egregious parts imo.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
10. And
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 04:07 AM
Dec 2017

the pukes are just waiting until the public sector union case gets before the supreme court. After the 5 pukes vote to decimate public sector unions, the pukes will go after Federal workers with a vengeance.

They are destroying our Federal government right before our eyes.

The kochs have staged a coup and are running the country.

America is dead. As of this evening, I have decided to emigrate.


chwaliszewski

(1,514 posts)
14. My hope is this...
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 04:31 AM
Dec 2017

before we take back the House, Senate, and Presidency, that all who voted for Cheeto Von Tweeto suffer financially as a result of this horrendous piece of skunk shit bill.

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