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How will elimination of net neutrality affect access to DU?? And other liberal blogs? (Original Post) bobbieinok Dec 2017 OP
Remember 300 baud modems? Girard442 Dec 2017 #1
IMHO, not much Xipe Totec Dec 2017 #2
ending net neutrality will end free speech on the net questionseverything Dec 2017 #3
If your ISP has a RW bias... Kablooie Dec 2017 #4
I already envision a peer to peer service lapfog_1 Dec 2017 #7
Google retricts websites, Facebook and Twitter social media, Youtube videos highmindedhavi Dec 2017 #5
Bet the farm on ISPs charging customers more for faster access. VOX Dec 2017 #6
Yeah, but how many people will pay more TexasBushwhacker Dec 2017 #8
They count on us being frogs-boiled-by-degrees... VOX Dec 2017 #11
ISPs can already charge for faster access; Net Neutrality doesn't affect speed options. brooklynite Dec 2017 #13
ISPs may offer fast lanes... VOX Dec 2017 #14
Probably to the same extent it affected access to DU before net neutrality rules. onenote Dec 2017 #9
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2017 #10
It won't... brooklynite Dec 2017 #12

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
2. IMHO, not much
Fri Dec 1, 2017, 10:09 PM
Dec 2017

Streaming media is the one that's most likely to be impacted. Blogs and other text based media have a very small footprint. So throttling them is not easy.

Having said that, I firmly believe the elimination of net neutrality is inherently evil and will result in further consolidation of organs of communication into the hands of the privileged few (think of a world where all news are carried by Fox and fox-like channels).


questionseverything

(9,656 posts)
3. ending net neutrality will end free speech on the net
Fri Dec 1, 2017, 10:19 PM
Dec 2017

end the free exchange of ideas

unless du has big bucks to pay for higher speeds it will end it also

only the commercials with deep pockets will survive

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
4. If your ISP has a RW bias...
Fri Dec 1, 2017, 10:21 PM
Dec 2017

They will be free to block sites they disagree with.
We might see conservative entities buying up ISP companies so they can do this.

lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)
7. I already envision a peer to peer service
Fri Dec 1, 2017, 11:09 PM
Dec 2017

that "randomizes" IP addresses on the net.

In other words, DU (or whatever site) would not be found at a fixed IP address (to defeat blockage) but rather at different addresses that change over the course of time (could be minutes, hours, days - depending)... and the current address is either pseudo-randomly generated or distributed by peers all over the net. Your browser would have to understand this IP address mobility.

What the ISP would have to do to defeat this is to ONLY allow you to communicate with certain "acceptable" IP addresses, but such an "internet" would not be acceptable to either consumers or advertisers (imho).

Alternatively, I expect certain "sky platform" ISPs to be available (FAA could always nix this I guess) so that consumers have a choice to move to a "net neutral" ISP rather than the current DSL / cable offerings.

 

highmindedhavi

(355 posts)
5. Google retricts websites, Facebook and Twitter social media, Youtube videos
Fri Dec 1, 2017, 10:22 PM
Dec 2017

So net Neutrality will give them more power? How?

VOX

(22,976 posts)
6. Bet the farm on ISPs charging customers more for faster access.
Fri Dec 1, 2017, 10:36 PM
Dec 2017

They will probably create tiered packages, making what customers have right now the lowest tier, etc. Or something like that.

But you know it’s coming. Every goddamned time Republicans change ANYTHING, it winds up costing more.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,192 posts)
8. Yeah, but how many people will pay more
Fri Dec 1, 2017, 11:20 PM
Dec 2017

Cable and satellite TV have already lost hundreds of thousands of subscribers. People just decided cable wasn't worth it. Could internet be the next cord to cut?

VOX

(22,976 posts)
11. They count on us being frogs-boiled-by-degrees...
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 12:52 AM
Dec 2017

A gallon of gas was once 29 cents. True, that’s a need for many folks. But so is decent internet access.

My wife is a free-lance graphic designer. She HAS to be able to send large image files at all times of day. So, in our case, we have to be a couple of frogs who say, “We can stand a few more degrees on the burner, turn it up.”

There’s no other choice, unless she wants to scrap a 25-year career and become a museum docent.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
14. ISPs may offer fast lanes...
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 02:18 AM
Dec 2017

Maybe “speed options” wasn’t the correct way to state it...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wired.com/story/heres-how-the-end-of-net-neutrality-will-change-the-internet/amp

Internet service providers like Comcast and Verizon may soon be free to block content, slow video-streaming services from rivals, and offer “fast lanes” to preferred partners.
<snip>
Consumers will likely see more arrangements like these, granting or blocking access to specific content, if the Federal Communications Commission next month repeals Obama-era net neutrality rules that ban broadband providers from discriminating against lawful content providers. The commission outlined its proposed changes on Tuesday, and published them Wednesday. The proposal would also ban states from passing their own versions of the old rules. Because Republicans have a majority in the agency, the proposal will likely pass and take effect early next year.

Because many internet services for mobile devices include limits on data use, the changes will be visible there first. In one dramatic scenario, internet services would begin to resemble cable-TV packages, where subscriptions could be limited to a few dozen sites and services. Or, for big spenders, a few hundred. Fortunately, that’s not a likely scenario. Instead, expect a gradual shift towards subscriptions that provide unlimited access to certain preferred providers while charging extra for everything else.
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Response to bobbieinok (Original post)

brooklynite

(94,588 posts)
12. It won't...
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 12:57 AM
Dec 2017

As hard as it may be to believe, most people don't know DU exists, much less see it as a threat to be throttled.

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