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Swede

(33,257 posts)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 11:13 AM Jul 2012

MSNBC’s Chris Hayes: No Symmetry Between Fox News And MSNBC

The whole article is interesting,and covers more than the fox-msnbc theme.

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It’s very important that we’re clear about what it is that we find objectionable about Fox, or objectionable about the model. The first thing that I think is important is transparency. If you found out that a mainstream news anchor at a major network was secretly emailing with a political operative, scheming on how to best present their case, you would be furious. The reason is there’s fundamentally a fraud being done, there’s a betrayal. Someone’s saying, ”I’m a neutral, good-faith arbiter of these things, when I’m not. I actually have skin in the game.’ That’s the greatest betrayal. That’s the most objectionable thing about Fox, is its claims to neutrality. The whole ‘fair and balanced’ thing. Because that is fundamentally a misleading way of advertising themselves. Fox is a conservative network. It’s more than that. It’s a partisan, Republican network. And I think a multiplicity of voices is great. So let there be a conservative network or a Republican identified network.

The other thing we have to realize is that there is an impossibility of any symmetry between Fox and MSNBC. And the reason is because of the two men who run the networks. Roger Ailes is a lifetime, hard-right, conservative ideologue and Republican partisan. He worked in politics. He helped get Nixon elected. This is his vision. If he wasn’t doing this, he probably would be doing something else that would be furthering those goals.

Our network is run by someone who worked in TV. And he wants to make a TV network that performs well, that gets viewers, that attracts advertisers, that lives up to certain standards. There’s such a big difference in that.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/07/chris-hayes-msnbc.php

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MSNBC’s Chris Hayes: No Symmetry Between Fox News And MSNBC (Original Post) Swede Jul 2012 OP
K&R renate Jul 2012 #1
Anytime someone in the media talks about their standards, you know the BS is going to get deep ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #2
So you believe that FoxNews and MSNBC have the same standards of fairness? 11 Bravo Jul 2012 #3
Like all media they both claim to ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #5
He forgot to mention that MSNBC tries to be truthful, while Fox is pure propaganda. Scuba Jul 2012 #4
also oldhippydude Jul 2012 #6

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
2. Anytime someone in the media talks about their standards, you know the BS is going to get deep
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 11:59 AM
Jul 2012

Regardless of its leanings.

oldhippydude

(2,514 posts)
6. also
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 03:17 PM
Jul 2012

i have seen several msnbc personalities correct a presentation that has proven to be in error... i have never seen fokkks do the same... likewise fokkks will simply make up facts to fit their presentation

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