Is something wrong with George Bush? He looks "out of it," as they say.

[skip fox]

Looks like dementia, even.

I dislike this man almost as much as any public figure (not as much as Cheney, of course), but not going to the Republican convention, talking about his presidency as though it was designed to be a rewarding experience for him like an extended summer camp, and his general demeanor recently, all seem to point to someone who profoundly doesn't care or is on medication or . . .

Has anyone else noticed this? Have otehrs commented on it?

[no_hypocrisy]

1. I think he's drinking again (that is, if he ever stopped).

[tosh]

3. +1.

without doubt

[SoutherDem]

6. I was thinking the same thing.

During his interview he looked drunk.

[evilhime]

43. That was my first thought

I honestly don't believe he ever wanted to be where he ended up . . . he ran to show daddy that he was better, and didn't realize just hard the job was. He is probably delighted to be out of it, on his ranch and being basically left alone. And yeah I'm guessing non alcoholic beer isn't his first choice these days.

[truebluegreen]

71. FWIW

I'm sure he is drinking--not "again" because that would imply that he had stopped, but more than when he was in office.

As for being back on his ranch, he bought it in '99 when he was running for president, and moved to a new house in Dallas as soon as he was out. It was a hobby ranch, by Texas standards, and I think he had 5 cows. He cleared brush on all his vacations 'cause that was the only manly, ranchy-type outdoor activity he could handle. Certainly getting anywhere near a horse was beyond his comfort zone.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1563773/George-Bush-the-Texan-is-scared-of-horses.html

[bonzotex]

44. +2

bingo

[firenewt]

46. Rum and coke and coke, maybe?

[seabeyond]

52. i do not believe he ever stopped and i think we had plenty of evidence of it

having a brother that is this kind of drunk, i dont think they stop. and know the behavior too much

[Warpy]

53. He's an untreated dry drunk

and I'll bet as soon as he got out of office and found out how much of the country thought he was a total fuckup, the pain of that got him maintenance drinking again. It's the only way he can maintain the illusion that was maintained for him by the White House bubble during his 8 illegitimate years in office, the illusion of certitude, rectitude, and competence.

I almost feel sorry for him as the Wernicke-Korsakoff syndrome progresses. Almost. I know what he's facing down the road and I know how hard it is to get men like him into any sort of treatment.

[greyghost]

59. No doubt, probably on pharmaceuticals as well. eom

[hifiguy]

66. He never stopped conferring with Jack (Daniel) and

Jim (Beam). Remember the Beijing Olympics?



Hammered. Drunk as a boiled owl.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. Did you just now notice this?

The guy has looked "out of it" for years.

[skip fox]

8. Of course. I used to CAPTION him almost daily through parts of his presidency here at DU, calling

him Numbnuts usually, and the jokes were often about his uncaringness and/or stupidity.

But now it seems different, or perhaps he just doesn't care anymore to maintain an appearance of concern.

[PatSeg]

36. Yes he did seem different

and I agree he doesn't seem to care anymore. He isn't running for anything, so he doesn't have to try to please anyone. He also looks like he's been drinking (or medication?).

[Nay]

4. His description of his experience as Prez strikes me as perfectly fitting for a sociopath. It's all

about him! And how it gratified him!

This doesn't discount the notion that he may also be on drugs/alcohol or just be a stupid entitled little shit as well, but for me the "sociopath" label has always applied to this little asshole.

[PatSeg]

35. Yes, it was all about him

whereas you'd expect a former president to talk about what a privilege it was to SERVE his/her country.

He sounded like a 12 year old kid who got to play a president in a play. "It was awesome!"

[hlthe2b]

5. I thought he was showing signs of pre-senile dementia before leaving the WH...

so, I'm not surprised. And as others have pointed out, he is likely drinking again.

[tularetom]

7. Has anyone noticed it? Where have you been for the past 10 years

If we're going to judge his mental health based on his actions and/or public utterances, it would be awful hard to spot a downward trend in his sanity. He was always out of it.

I think we've all forgotten just how goofy the bastard actually is and so when we see or hear him and he looks acts or sounds goofy, we're surprised.

[skip fox]

9. I've been right here and I've CAPTIONed him at DU for years.

But his vacancy seems less and less polluted with mental activity, as they say.

[eppur_se_muova]

33. "less and less polluted with mental activity, as they say."

OK, I've never actually heard them say that, but it's a keeper !

[dixiegrrrrl]

38. What a great phrase! Stealing that one, indeed.

[unblock]

10. i'm quite certain he was invited to keep as far away from the convention as possible.

and the way he talked about the presidency in completely narcissistic and sociopathic terms is completely consistent with the narcissism and sociopathy he has always displayed.

as for being on "medication", i'm quite confident that he really resented not being able to be constantly self-medicated while in the public eye and this is the main reason why he doesn't miss it.

[lonestarnot]

11. Nothing different, prollee just more organic brain damage, if he had a brain in the first place.

[NRaleighLiberal]

12. has anything at all ever been right with him? I don't think so. n/t

[TexasTowelie]

13. Don't forget this thread from April.

http://sync.democraticunderground.com/1002517944

Since it is doubtful that he will ever serve time for his war crimes, the best thing (for us and him) is that he get drunk and go away.

[Mimosa]

14. Link, please? n/t

[skip fox]

17. You want a link for his recent comments on his presidency?

If so I'll try to find. I think it was in the last 2-3 weeks.

[Mimosa]

23. Yes. But I can look it up.

Bush 43 interests me so little.

[skip fox]

24. Wow. It's even worse than I remember. "Eight years was awesome. I was famous and I was powerfu1."

I din't believe what I was reading. (Only 3 days ago.)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/17/george-bush-eight-years-awesome-famous-powerful_n_1680383.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+HP%2FPolitics+(Politics+on+The+Huffington+Post)

[MisterP]

39. President Liefeld?

[dixiegrrrrl]

47. Here is link to the recent interview 3 days ago.

&feature=player_embedded

his jaw still grinds, clearly visible. Interesting.

[Brigid]

15. Yes, he seems worse than ever to me.

He's probably hitting the sauce again, as the prevailing theory goes.

[PDJane]

16. Dementia.

And yes, either drink or drugs. In that, I feel moderate sympathy...for his wife, for the nation he led, for a lot of things. But I think, like Ronald Reagan before him, he was a tool and a fool. He is also a war criminal, aided and abetted by the other war criminals in his administration.

But again, like Reagan, there is so little left of the essence of George Bush that trying and jailing him for war crimes is probably a useless proposition; there's nothing there, and hasn't been for a long time.

[Cleita]

18. That's that "dry" drunk thing going on I think.

However, the drunk is pretty wet IMHO. I do believe the years of being pleasantly imbibed 24/7 are finally doing the finishing touches on his brain cell destruction.

[MADem]

19. I always wondered if he had issues with medicinal non - compliance.

An unwillingness to stay on his medication, resulting in a need to over-medicate him on occasion to get him back on track.

Who knows, though?

He did seem a bit "slurry" when I last saw him on the telly.

[LiberalEsto]

20. He's several sixpacks short of a case

because he already finished those sixpacks

[flamingdem]

21. It's called alcohaulic "wet brain" - he can be dry and still have it nt

[Marr]

22. Definitely. He's a moron.

[tanyev]

25. He seemed to be having trouble staying vertical at his portrait unveiling.

If he's truly not drinking, then there must be some medical issue.

[monmouth]

26. It would appear there's been some damage, am not sure it's all alcohol either..n/t

[doc03]

27. You mean "W"? Didn't he always act that way? n/t

[DefenseLawyer]

28. I'm not a doctor, but if I have to guess I'd say he's an idiot

Just a guess though.

[Major Nikon]

29. Copious quantities of Wild Turkey will do that to ya

[ThomThom]

30. I still think he had a brain wipe so he couldn't remember anything

then he can't testify but who's going to bring charges .....not our justice department

[B Calm]

31. Coke Head

[Arkansas Granny]

32. Here's my take. GWB only got into politics to prove to Poppy that he could do it.

I don't believe he ever had a desire to perform a public service, it was all about ego. He was chosen to be the Republican Presidential candidate because of his name recognition and the fact that he could be manipulated by the PTB once he was elected. It was all a game to him. Now that he's done it, he's through. It was hard work and he doesn't intend to work anymore. As far as drinking or being on medication, I think it's highly likely.

As I said, JMHO.

[2pooped2pop]

40. that is what I always thought too

That's what drove him to go for a second term too. He wanted to not just equal him but one-up him by getting not only a second term but also removing Saddam since his father failed to do that.

If any of the shit about the Franklin coverup is true, I can see why Georgie may subconsciously hate Poppy. It isn't hard to see it drive him.

[Lil Missy]

57. I agree. He was an empty suit to give his stamp of approval to

an agenda designed by others.

On edit: So is Romney, but he's a higher functioning idiot.

[eShirl]

34. ...

[valerief]

41. He's been Pretzeling. nt

[JDPriestly]

42. He was always extremely self-centered. Many here ventured to guess that he was maybe a sociopath.

That would figure. If he isn't the center of attention, he is nothing.

[bluedigger]

45. He's aging fast.

They'll be tying the drool cup on his chin any day now, from the looks of it. It's a real shame.

[Botany]

48. He and Jim Beam have been spending a lot of time together

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google W's last press conference as POTUS and he was toasted.



From W's hello Slovenia tour spring 2009 ... I can't find the pix but as he was getting off Air
Force 1 he was trashed

[zeemike]

49. From personal experience I would say he is an alcoholic.

And I have known several in my life...and took the time to read some books on the subject of how alcohol effects the brain.
It destroys brain cells in the frontal lobe and that is the part of the brain that gives us morality and reasoning...and every later stage alcoholic becomes amoral and uses poor reasoning because of the damage....and in the later stages it becomes permanent.
Learning that made me give up drinking for good...and I don't miss it at all.

[UnrepentantLiberal]

50. How can you tell?

[skip fox]

68. Indeed!

But I have a very fine-tuned calibration apparatus.

[The Wizard]

51. Old Demons coming back

[Berlum]

54. Bush's soul is AWOL from his 1% Republican carcass

Sad to see. And this is what the other Republicans look up to a some kind of "ideal" that they are staving to attain. Ptoooooey on that, and all the sick Republican "family values" hypocritical horseshit they spew...

[ProfessionalLeftist]

55. He's been that way for years

Hadn't noticed a big difference recently.

[struggle4progress]

56. He sucked a lot of snow thru his schnozz in his earlier days

That and his years as an alcoholic probably left a mark

[Motown_Johnny]

58. It looks like dementia to me too, same as always.

[greyghost]

60. They propped him up all...

through his presidency. Now no one is bothering to try to cover for him. He seems to be hitting it HARD.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

61. He looked about the same to me.

Of course, I remember how much prep they had to do to shove his dumb ass behind a podium. I swear there were times when it looked like they had pumped him full of something because he would pause for no reason as if he was going through a rush, often hanging on to the podium for support.

Look at some of his speeches and see how fast he turns the pages. I swear, some of those pages only had a few words on them. Probably large print so he didn't have to use his glasses but amounting to a string of post-it notes.

What I found disgusting is how he acted like he was lucky THEY let him be President for a while. Right after his tailhook landing he said he was glad THEY let him do it. He was supposed to be the one in charge but the idiot didn't even know enough to keep that illusion intact.

[lostnote12]

63. Hey Prince George?...need a drink to wash down that pretzle with?

[Go Vols]

64. lol

[HopeHoops]

65. Same as always - Jack Daniels is his top advisor.

[zazen]

67. late-stage disseminated Lyme disease?

I wouldn't rule out the other comments, but if you listen to him from the early 90s and then 12 years later, he really did seem to have suffered some neurological damage. I believe he has seropositive confirmed Lyme.

[Redford]

70. West Nile Virus

It has been going around here.

[JackHughes]

72. Presidency as baseball fantasy camp

George W. Bush viewed the presidency like an eight-year baseball fantasy camp. It was just for his personal entertainment and fulfillment. It was always just about him.

It's the same for Mitt Romney. He looks upon the presidency as other plutocrats view owning a pro-sports team or flying around the world in a balloon -- just a rich man's hobby.

One would think the American people would have learned something about electing self-absorbed members of the Lucky Sperm Club president after Dubya.

[treestar]

73. Father or son?

They have both always looked "out of it" IMO.

[Zyzafyx]

74. Was he ever "in it"?