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NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 07:33 PM Nov 2017

I don't give a good god damn if Senator Warren has a drop of Native blood....

What Dipshit Donnie did today was fling a racial slur in the presence of Native American heroes while representing the Office of the President.

Done. End of rant.


(FWIW, I DO have several drops of Creek in my blood and those drops are joined with the drops from all over my history and are boiling about this.)

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I don't give a good god damn if Senator Warren has a drop of Native blood.... (Original Post) NightWatcher Nov 2017 OP
They don't call him effing moron for nothing Motley13 Nov 2017 #1
The rest of the world calls her Senator Warren. trof Nov 2017 #13
he is bdamomma Nov 2017 #35
And did you notice which portrait he did it in front of? Think that was an accident? Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #2
I smell Stephen Miller on that one. I doubt Dickhead could've figured that out by himself NightWatcher Nov 2017 #5
Trump doesnt literally know who Jackson is, but Bannon and Miller sure do. Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #6
Trump called Andrew Jackson 'a swashbuckler.' Brother Buzz Nov 2017 #7
The Cherokee I know call him the Indian fucker. mahannah Nov 2017 #10
I blame his staff for that one, they should know he didn't learn history at Wharton, but I guess Motley13 Nov 2017 #18
Was it stupidity? robbob Nov 2017 #24
Exactly caraher Nov 2017 #34
Deliberate sagetea Nov 2017 #55
Trump himself doesnt know who Andrew Jackson is other than what he has been told Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #41
Trump, is the biggest fucken asshole in the universe. The asshole is grotesque, as well as homely. RKP5637 Nov 2017 #3
+1, I don't know anyone with less character than the president of the US ... that's such a damn sham uponit7771 Nov 2017 #8
Recommended. H2O Man Nov 2017 #4
Worse yet djg21 Nov 2017 #9
If Senator Warren has a drop of Native blood.... tecelote Nov 2017 #11
I read where now they are claiming that Senator Warren lied about Iliyah Nov 2017 #51
My "drop" annabanana Nov 2017 #52
From what I saw... Lifelong Protester Nov 2017 #12
I hate it when his supporters ask for DangerousUrNot Nov 2017 #14
I'm sick of commentators saying "I don't know what's in his heart but..." lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #46
Well, Kajun Gal Nov 2017 #15
According to my grandmother, my great-great-great grandmother was Cree. A Brand New World Nov 2017 #16
same thing happened in my family Raine Nov 2017 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Nov 2017 #39
C'mon! You KNOW Senator Warren was hoping to win the vast number maddiemom Nov 2017 #53
My wife has Tuscarora in her genetic history, but this incident BobTheSubgenius Nov 2017 #17
He is so utterly without class. 3catwoman3 Nov 2017 #19
True shenmue Nov 2017 #48
A lot of Cherokee in Oklahoma KrazyinKS Nov 2017 #20
Believed I had 1/16th Native American Blood gladium et scutum Nov 2017 #26
You may still have the blood, the genes get shuffled with each generation diane in sf Nov 2017 #43
A very small possibility gladium et scutum Nov 2017 #54
It doesn't matter whether Warren has Native American ancestry or not....no matter Kirk Lover Nov 2017 #21
Just a nasty racist gawdam pig. yallerdawg Nov 2017 #22
Correctomundo Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2017 #23
He doesn't respect anyone bdamomma Nov 2017 #37
And the pathological LIAR added that malaise Nov 2017 #25
like i said, i hate him & wish he was gone trueblue2007 Nov 2017 #27
Despicable Donnie is stirring up racial hatred in the country thegoose Nov 2017 #28
Putin bdamomma Nov 2017 #38
Classy as always... syringis Nov 2017 #29
Why would anyone go to the WH after this? RainCaster Nov 2017 #30
While standing in front of a portrait of Andrew Jackson. mac56 Nov 2017 #32
You can tell she does reggaehead Nov 2017 #33
Dunno if Liz has native blood. T's blood has murder and tyranny. Freelancer Nov 2017 #36
My mother's paternal line had some Cherokee blood at some point, probably on the maternal line. Texin Nov 2017 #40
Did my DNA with Ancestry.com, very disappointed Motley13 Nov 2017 #42
Illegitimate President of the US. Amimnoch Nov 2017 #44
On the flip side, many white supremacists have found their blood is not as pure as they thought IronLionZion Nov 2017 #45
Correct - you cannot use a class of people as an insult Ms. Toad Nov 2017 #47
Its ironic in a sad way how Republicans like Donnie show their racism.... LiberalLovinLug Nov 2017 #49
I have Native American ancestors as well bucolic_frolic Nov 2017 #50

Motley13

(3,867 posts)
1. They don't call him effing moron for nothing
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 07:40 PM
Nov 2017

the thing that got me, he said they call her Pocahontas,
NO, MORON you call her that, the rest of the world knows better.





Motley13

(3,867 posts)
18. I blame his staff for that one, they should know he didn't learn history at Wharton, but I guess
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 08:52 PM
Nov 2017

they are just as stupid

Eliot Rosewater

(31,113 posts)
41. Trump himself doesnt know who Andrew Jackson is other than what he has been told
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 12:54 PM
Nov 2017

since breaking into and illegally occupying the WH.

Bannon and Miller did this, on purpose. To send a message.

uponit7771

(90,348 posts)
8. +1, I don't know anyone with less character than the president of the US ... that's such a damn sham
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 07:57 PM
Nov 2017
 

djg21

(1,803 posts)
9. Worse yet
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 08:01 PM
Nov 2017

Was the fact that Trump stood at a podium in front of a portrait of Andrew Jackson, who was an advocate of “Indian removal,” was a well-know “Indian fighter” responsible for killing countless native Americans, and as President signed the Indian Removal Act, which resulted in the infamous Trail of Tears.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aia/part4/4p2959.html

https://indiancountrymedianetwork.com/history/people/indian-killer-andrew-jackson-deserves-top-spot-on-list-of-worst-us-presidents/

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-posed-native-americans-andrew-jackson-portrait-article-1.3660887

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
11. If Senator Warren has a drop of Native blood....
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 08:30 PM
Nov 2017

I consider that an asset. We need more Native American blood in Congress.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
51. I read where now they are claiming that Senator Warren lied about
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 04:15 PM
Nov 2017

the Indian ancestry and therefore, that is WORSE than t-rump comments.

Unbeknownst to RWers, I pretty sure even in their ancestry they have Indian DNA. Ignorant runs extremely deep in their train of thought.

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
52. My "drop"
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 04:30 PM
Nov 2017

Eight "Greats" back (Which would put it in the 1600's I think) There was a Wampanoag (Pokanoket) woman who's "Christian name" was Alice and her family name was Sessetom who married one of my ancestors.

I have always considered that bit of family history fascinating and I wish I knew the particulars. I'd like to think it was a genuine marriage, although I know there is the possibility that it wasn't.

DangerousUrNot

(431 posts)
14. I hate it when his supporters ask for
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 08:37 PM
Nov 2017

Evidence that he is racist. They even ask me for evidence that he is racist against blacks since I’m black, like it makes a difference. This man is an outright racist sociopath.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
46. I'm sick of commentators saying "I don't know what's in his heart but..."
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 03:05 PM
Nov 2017

If they can't tell that he is a racist all the way down to his stone cold heart, then they should get off TV they're idiots.

 

Kajun Gal

(1,907 posts)
15. Well,
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 08:38 PM
Nov 2017

If she has native American blood in her then she IS the true American! Not Donnie Drumph!
God! Even I have native American in me! It's funny really, but MOST southerners have native American blood running through them. I am quite proud of that fact.

A Brand New World

(1,119 posts)
16. According to my grandmother, my great-great-great grandmother was Cree.
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 08:42 PM
Nov 2017

When I did research on my family tree, I didn't see any signs of that but I have no reason to doubt my grandmother's word. And she is no longer alive to question further. The same thing could have happened with Senator Warren. Verbal family history may or may not be 100% accurate but not for nefarious purposes.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
31. same thing happened in my family
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 10:04 PM
Nov 2017

for years the rumor was that we were part Native American and we looked it too. When anyone asked our nationality they said "you've got to be Native American" and we said "yes" ... WRONG. We thought we were but recently my brother traced the family back hundreds of years and not one drop of Native American, we're totally Anglo Saxon. We honestly thought were but at least we never used a fake name like Drumpf (or whatever it is).

Response to A Brand New World (Reply #16)

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
53. C'mon! You KNOW Senator Warren was hoping to win the vast number
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 04:43 PM
Nov 2017

of Native American votes to get elected in Massachusetts. If she runs for national office, the Native American votes throughout the country will put her way over the top. Hardly fair compared to the small number of German American votes, which might not all go for Trump, so NOT fair to him. Sad.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,564 posts)
17. My wife has Tuscarora in her genetic history, but this incident
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 08:50 PM
Nov 2017

didn't really rile her much. She already couldn't think much less of this boorish oaf. Neither of us could.

shenmue

(38,506 posts)
48. True
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 03:10 PM
Nov 2017

As a fellow person born in Queens, like he was, I have to say, this motherfucker pissin' me off.

KrazyinKS

(291 posts)
20. A lot of Cherokee in Oklahoma
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 09:09 PM
Nov 2017

lots of people with a great grandparent somewhere that was Indian. Not a big deal around here. Maybe in Manhattan it is, when people say their grandfather or great grandfather was Indian, I just take them at their word, not a biggie. And yes, many do not look Indian at all.

gladium et scutum

(808 posts)
26. Believed I had 1/16th Native American Blood
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 09:35 PM
Nov 2017

for 65 years based on what my mother told me. $75 DNA test showed I was 100% Northern and Western European.

diane in sf

(3,917 posts)
43. You may still have the blood, the genes get shuffled with each generation
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 01:04 PM
Nov 2017

And the part that's Native American might have gotten very dilute.

gladium et scutum

(808 posts)
54. A very small possibility
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 05:42 PM
Nov 2017

Both my brother and my dna tests, very similar results, very Scandanavian and Northern European. I had my done a second time by another company, same results. After several of year searching, trying to run down my maternal great grand father in the records of the Native Americans in Oklahoma, nada, zero trace of him in any reliable source documents.

 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
21. It doesn't matter whether Warren has Native American ancestry or not....no matter
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 09:18 PM
Nov 2017

how hard Sarah suck sanders wants to say that it's about Warren it's not...it's about this trashbag and his racist remarks...and THE FUCKING NERVE to insult the race that is right in front of his face. This guy gotta go and NOW.

bdamomma

(63,917 posts)
37. He doesn't respect anyone
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 10:41 PM
Nov 2017

or anything decent. He is a big nothing, he is a big health hazard ready to blow......

malaise

(269,144 posts)
25. And the pathological LIAR added that
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 09:35 PM
Nov 2017

“Although we have a representative in Congress who they say was here a long time ago. They call her Pocahontas.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/27/trump-makes-pocahontas-joke-at-ceremony-honoring-navajo-veterans

He's the only person who ever called Elizabeth Warren
Pocahontas

 

thegoose

(3,115 posts)
28. Despicable Donnie is stirring up racial hatred in the country
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 09:41 PM
Nov 2017

He's not out and out saying n***ers and sp*cs, but don't think for a moment that's not what this wretched piece of shit is doing.

syringis

(5,101 posts)
29. Classy as always...
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 09:47 PM
Nov 2017


I'm trying to recall something he said...Got it !

MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.

Here's how :

RainCaster

(10,908 posts)
30. Why would anyone go to the WH after this?
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 09:59 PM
Nov 2017

You would be insulted, while he brags about how great his ego is...
NOBODY should attend a white house event after this, he is such a pig.

Freelancer

(2,107 posts)
36. Dunno if Liz has native blood. T's blood has murder and tyranny.
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 10:40 PM
Nov 2017

He is descended from Kenneth MacAlpin, 1st King of Scotland, who was a treacherous murderer. According to legend, he invited all those with claims to kingship to a feast on a grand platform, liquored them up, then knocked out the supports. They fell onto spikes concealed below the stage.

I know this because I'm also descended from Kenneth MacAlpin. Yes, we're cousins.

http://halfmoon.tripod.com/macalpin.html

Texin

(2,596 posts)
40. My mother's paternal line had some Cherokee blood at some point, probably on the maternal line.
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 12:49 PM
Nov 2017

I haven't been able to trace that through Ancestry at this point to see where the intersection occurred. My maternal grandparents were both from Alabama and migrated to Texas and into Oklahoma during the early to mid-1800s. Not one of my parents or grandparents had brown eyes, and that's not at all uncommon over time. They didn't look (to me) a bit as if there might have been native American blood running through the family tree, though when I look at photographs of my grandfather (maternal), his eyes have a slightly Asian, almond-shape to them (and Asians migrated - purportedly - from the land bridge from Asia and Siberia many thousands of years ago and populated the North American continent becoming the various "indigenous" tribes that the early Europeans found here when they began their explorations and discovery of the North American continent).

I've known many people whose ancestors were from Oklahoma and they maintained that they themselves had native blood in their family bloodline even though they didn't have the appearance of having it. I do not disbelieve Senator Warren at all. I don't know whether she's had her DNA tested to discover if this is true or not, but you better bet that if her parents or grandparents told her this or it was part of the family "lore" that everyone has, including my own, they believed it to be true based on oral history if not written documentation. For Trump to keep pejoratively calling her Pochahontas is an insult to the actual woman and to the native population at large, and I wouldn't put it past him that he intended it as an intentional sideswipe to the men present, the native American people as a whole, and Elizabeth Warren for purely partisan dog whistle politics. Disgusting.

Motley13

(3,867 posts)
42. Did my DNA with Ancestry.com, very disappointed
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 01:03 PM
Nov 2017

I had no native Am blood, in fact there were no surprises except my Viking
ancestors must have been the ones getting to the Caucasus' that I didn't know before

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
44. Illegitimate President of the US.
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 02:58 PM
Nov 2017

He was not elected by the majority of the people.

His campaign was in collusion with a hostile foreign government.

He has neglected the emergency disaster needs of Puerto Ricans, and Californians as partisan punishment.

He has taken no steps, at all, to address the worst and 4th worst mass shootings in the nations history. Hell, he has refused to even call these shootings acts of terror.

He has used the bully pulpit of the presidency to engage in childish attacks on private citizens, the free press, members of congress (both within and outside of his party).

He has been accused of sexual assault/sexual misconduct by no less than 19 women, and an investigation by his party, which is in majority, has not even been initiated.

He is the illegitimate president of the US.

Ms. Toad

(34,085 posts)
47. Correct - you cannot use a class of people as an insult
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 03:08 PM
Nov 2017

without implying there is something inherently bad about being within that class. That applies whether or not Warren is a Native American.

It is the same drum I've been banging about using gay or transgender as an insult to Trump, et al. I hope you have better luck making the point as to Native Americans.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,175 posts)
49. Its ironic in a sad way how Republicans like Donnie show their racism....
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 03:12 PM
Nov 2017

...through a failed attempt to call out a Democrat as a racist. Isn't that what they implied by ridiculing her claim by teasing her with a nickname like that? That she was disrespecting native americans by being glib about her unfounded claims to look more.....I don't know....diverse? To make her ancestry more colorful? I really sometimes don't think even Republicans think through these insults.

bucolic_frolic

(43,249 posts)
50. I have Native American ancestors as well
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 04:07 PM
Nov 2017

saw a painting of one once. about 1810. Know her name. I was told Cree, but I doubt it based on the geography.

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